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Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:47:59 -0700 From: Tony Su <tonysu@su-networking.com> To: opensuse-boosters@opensuse.org Subject: [opensuse-boosters] Proposal for Building, Managing Code Testing Ecosystem
Hello Group,
I was informed that this was the best place to submit a rather large and potentially influential openSUSE project.
Through Bryen and the openSUSE marketing group, I came to understand that a call for Users willing to test code has been made.
Along with one other in that group and considering my ongoing participation in the openSUSE Technical Help forums, the two of us are proposing building a state of art ecosystem of Users willing to test and assist in developing Code.
Please take a few minutes to read the proposal I've posted at the following URL, the website is set to be accessible only by those who know the URL (it's not supposed to be publicly searchable) and although it's visible anonymously, editing requires logging in with a Google account.
https://sites.google.com/site/projectcodedev/
Do be forthright with any opinion about the proposed Project, myself and anything else, I will take any comment constructively and after many years have seen and experienced just about anything that can and has been said in unmoderated as well as moderated forums. If the Proposal is deemed unsupportable, I might be disappointed but can accept that as well.
:)
Thank you, Tony Su
Hi, I have been driving quite some part of the testing efforts for 11.4 (sometimes jokingly calling myself "HobbyQA") In particular, I created http://openqa.opensuse.org/ on a dedicated machine in Nuremberg (because it needs hardware virt and plenty resources). This helps a lot to auto-maintain the factory-tested repo as something that will not be arbitrarily broken and thus is better suited for human testers than openSUSE-Factory. for testing coordination/communication there is atm the ML http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-testing/ and wiki http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Testing and IRC meetings http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Testing_meeting and the new social thingy: https://connect.opensuse.org//pg/groups/12174/opensuse-testers/ in principle, there is also testopia on bugzilla.novell.com, but until now it was not really put to good use - possibly because of certain shortcomings in the setup which we can not influence. I read most of the proposal pages and was thinking, that Linux Distributions do not do "Waterfall" model much, because there are a) rarely detailed specs upfront, b) design often happens as needed during implementation, c) verification is rarely comprehensive or specific to new code d) there are several pre-releases allowing for feedback and subsequent improvements (even Factory(-tested) providing daily updates) of course, distributions also mainly consist of upstream project code with their own devel/release cycles and methods. However, some way to better coodinate testers and testing would be nice. Giving credits and/or rewards to testers is also a good thing to do. And there is more room for improvement. Ciao Bernhard M. - -- you have to know your goal for it makes it much easier to reach -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2R40oACgkQSTYLOx37oWRlkwCbBZc/fgUxJDvAa9e+5j8AjXBt 6rAAoMSwq+fBXvT3Fh4EWtVqPUhIVzg2 =ELSM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org