Hi. I am still struggling with the Braille interface in the Yast2 installation program for SuSE. I can't seem to move around the installation dialogs properly. The keys I am trying to use are: Tab to advance to the next dialog, up/down arrow to select items in list boxes and radio buttons. Space to highlight an option in a radio button. Enter to select the next button. However, the Braille display is not tracking the changes on-screen, and parts of the display appear to be getting complete garbled. Also, is there a way to change the Braille translation table from the German 8-dot default, (which I find extremely difficult to read), to English 6-dot? I'm using an Alva-Braille ABT340. The display seems responsive enough, and is initialising reliably now. Finally, wen I boot into the installation, I'm getting some sort of message about my computer not supporting the graphical installation, and about needing a minimum of 64M of RAM for this. It also says something like as a fallback, the textual front-end will be used to guide me through the installation. Is this normal for users of Braille, or could it be that SuSE doesn't like my graphics card? Any help appreciated. Kind regards, Gordon Smith. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "mailto:Gordon Smith <gordon@tft-bbs.co.uk" "mailto:Gordon Smith <07932634539@one2one.net" http://www.tft-bbs.co.uk> ftp://ftp.tft-bbs.co.uk ftp://ftp.tft-bbs.com ftp://ftp.tft-bbs.org.uk ICQ: 23973878 MSN Messenger: gordon@tft-bbs.co.uk Tel.: +44 7932 634 539 Fax.: +44 1642 357 754
Hi Gordon, I don't work with grafic user interfaces at all, since I have a hardware speach solution for all kinds of operating systems. But I know that it's possible to use YAST-1 with a more text cell oriented user surface. I suggest to try the YAST-1. Marco, could You please describe in more detail the steps needed in order to get into YAST-1, thanks. Greetings from germany... Wolfgang Mit freundlichen Grüßen, with best regards, Wolfgang Werner Weyrich Abt. ISW, ZF Getriebe GmbH, 66117 Saarbrücken, Südring 1 Telefon: +49 (0)6 81 / 9 20 28 07 Fax: +49 (0)6 81 / 9 20 26 79 Intranet: wolfgang.weyrich@zf.com http://pc-www.zfs.zf-group.de Security: security@zf.com http://cert.zfs.zf-group.de
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I am still struggling with the Braille interface in the Yast2 installation program for SuSE. I can't seem to move around the installation dialogs properly. The keys I am trying to use are: Tab to advance to the next dialog, up/down arrow to select items in list boxes and radio buttons. Space to highlight an option in a radio button. Enter to select the next button. However, the Braille display is not tracking the changes on-screen, and parts of the display appear to be getting complete garbled. Also, is there a way to change the Braille translation table from the German 8-dot default, (which I find extremely difficult to read), to English 6-dot? I'm using an Alva-Braille ABT340. The display seems responsive enough, and is initialising reliably now. Finally, wen I boot into the installation, I'm getting some sort of message about my computer not supporting the graphical installation, and about needing a minimum of 64M of RAM for this. It also says something like as a fallback, the textual front-end will be used to guide me through the installation. Is this normal for users of Braille, or could it be that SuSE doesn't like my graphics card? Any help appreciated.
Kind regards, Gordon Smith.
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Hi Wolfgang, hello Gordon!
But I know that it's possible to use YAST-1 with a more text cell oriented user surface. I suggest to try the YAST-1. Marco, could You please describe in more detail the steps needed in order to get into YAST-1, thanks.
Its not posible to work with yast(1) during the braillebased installation :-(. But after the installation you can use it without any problems. Best regards, Schoeppi -- SuSE-Blinux Support Christian Schöpplein <schoeppi@suse.de> Tel.: Di. und Do. 15.00 - 20.00 Uhr 0421/526-2480 www: http://www.blinux.suse.de
Hi Gordon! On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Gordon Smith wrote:
I am still struggling with the Braille interface in the Yast2 installation program for SuSE. I can't seem to move around the installation dialogs properly. The keys I am trying to use are: Tab to advance to the next dialog, up/down arrow to select items in list boxes and radio buttons. Space to highlight an option in a radio button. Enter to select the next button. However, the Braille display is not tracking the changes on-screen, and parts of the display appear to be getting complete garbled.
The keys you are useing are ok. If the tracing for the brailledisplay is not working try to go one line up or down. There are problemes becouse of the different frames in yast2 and sometimes this helps.
Also, is there a way to change the Braille translation table from the German 8-dot default, (which I find extremely difficult to read), to English 6-dot? I'm using an Alva-Braille ABT340. The display seems responsive enough, and is initialising reliably now.
Yes, you can switch to 6-dot-braille by pressing the following keycombination: B002+B003 Press the 2. button on your display and holt this button and then press the third button.
Finally, wen I boot into the installation, I'm getting some sort of message about my computer not supporting the graphical installation, and about needing a minimum of 64M of RAM for this. It also says something like as a fallback, the textual front-end will be used to guide me through the installation. Is this normal for users of Braille, or could it be that SuSE doesn't like my graphics card? Any help appreciated.
There is no problem with your grafics card, this message is normal if your are installing SusE-Linux with a brailledevice. Have fun, Schoeppi -- SuSE-Blinux Support Christian Schöpplein <schoeppi@suse.de> Tel.: Di. und Do. 15.00 - 20.00 Uhr 0421/526-2480 www: http://www.blinux.suse.de
I am still struggling with the Braille interface in the Yast2 installation program for SuSE. I can't seem to move around the installation dialogs properly. The keys I am trying to use are: Tab to advance to the next dialog, up/down arrow to select items in list boxes and radio buttons. Space to highlight an option in a radio button. Enter to select the next button. However, the Braille display is not tracking the changes on-screen, and parts of the display appear to be getting complete garbled.
The keys you are useing are ok. If the tracing for the brailledisplay is not working try to go one line up or down. There are problemes becouse of the different frames in yast2 and sometimes this helps. I'm afraid it didn't help in my case. Also, the Braille is not showing which buttons I am highlighting when I press the Tab key, and the up/down arrows are not making any difference either. For example, if I manage to get to the hard drive and custom partition options, as I did once by sheer chance, I cannot tell where I am. Moving around with the Braille keys doesn't really help me either, because I cannot tell which option or
Hello. At 13:37 02/08/2001 +0200, Christian Schoepplein said: options are selected, ecept in the case of radio buttons, which have an X next to them if selected.
Also, is there a way to change the Braille translation table from the German 8-dot default, (which I find extremely difficult to read), to English 6-dot? I'm using an Alva-Braille ABT340. The display seems responsive enough, and is initialising reliably now.
Yes, you can switch to 6-dot-braille by pressing the following keycombination.
This works in places, but sometimes it reverts to 8-dot mode at random. At the moment, the installation is too hit and miss to be of use.
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Hi Gordon! On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Gordon Smith wrote:
I'm afraid it didn't help in my case. Also, the Braille is not showing which buttons I am highlighting when I press the Tab key, and the up/down arrows are not making any difference either. For example, if I manage to get to the hard drive and custom partition options, as I did once by sheer chance, I cannot tell where I am. Moving around with the Braille keys doesn't really help me either, because I cannot tell which option or options are selected, ecept in the case of radio buttons, which have an X next to them if selected.
Hmm, I'm sorry, but I can't reproduce your problems on my system. If you are in listboxes you shuld see the actual item (not higlightetd) and then the rest of the line (highlightetd). By moving up and down with the cursorkeys you shuld be able to switch between the different items of the list. By pressing the tabkey you'll get to the next list or the next element of the screen. The actual element or the selected item is also marked with the cursor in front of it or witch the cursor in the same line. you can select a item or a radiobutton by pressing either the enterkey or space. Just try a little bit and move arround in the yast2-installationprocedure, I'm sure with a littlle exercising you'll can solve the problems. Its really a little tricky, but it shuld work. You can't do wrong anything and the installationprogramm does not make any changes to your system, until you answer "yes" to the last question of the whole installationprocedure. Also you'll get a summary of all setting before this last question, so you can controll if every thing is selected right. What do you see on your brailledisplay, if your are in the hard drive and custom partition options? How do you want to install linux? On wich partitions, how much harddrives etc.? Best regards and don't give up, I'm 100% sure we'll get linux working on your computer!!! Schoeppi -- SuSE-Blinux Support Christian Schöpplein <schoeppi@suse.de> Tel.: Di. und Do. 15.00 - 20.00 Uhr 0421/526-2480 www: http://www.blinux.suse.de
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