Is the yast2 autoyast broken ?
I tried to remove all cups packages except cups-libs from the package list generated by 'yast2 autoyast'. If I deselect them and save with the GUI they are still in my config.xml afterwards. This is not the first bug so it seems the autoyast GUI is badly broken with 9.1. Here is my short buglist : - 'Create reference profile' is broken. It does not create entries for network, partitions, sound etc. pp - Removing single packages with 'Software->Package Selection' does not remove them from the list when saving. - Setting up a LPRNG printer is not supported at all - Setting up 24bit color depth is accepted but not saved - 'General->Confirm installation' shows 'no' though the box is checked 'yes' when you choose 'Configure'. - Soundcards which are autodetected do not show up in the list and can't be selected/configured Guess thats not all but I feel frustrated and will take a few days off trying to tweak my config.xml by hand next week. Here I ask again : Is there a complete reference of available xml tags for autoyast ? Is there a better documentation ? Is autoyast supported or unsupported by SuSE ? Henrik -- Henrik Schmidt Christian-Albrechts-Universitaet zu Kiel Institut fuer Informatik +49 (431) 880 75 - 50 Fax or 43 Phone Olshausenstr. 40 http://www.ks.informatik.uni-kiel.de 24098 Kiel, Germany email: hbs@ks.informatik.uni-kiel.de
Henrik Schmidt wrote:
I tried to remove all cups packages except cups-libs from the package list generated by 'yast2 autoyast'. If I deselect them and save with the GUI they are still in my config.xml afterwards. This is not the first bug so it seems the autoyast GUI is badly broken with 9.1.
Here is my short buglist :
- 'Create reference profile' is broken. It does not create entries for network, partitions, sound etc.
sound, network work for me. partitioning does not work, looking into this.
- Removing single packages with 'Software->Package Selection' does not remove them from the list when saving.
cant reproduce, please send me detailed description how trigger this..
- Setting up a LPRNG printer is not supported at all
yeah, looks like autoyast support was dropped. Btw, LPRNG support will be dropped in the next release.
- Setting up 24bit color depth is accepted but not saved
Works for me. If you choose a VESA/LCD monitor depth is forced back to 16. This is not a bug.
- 'General->Confirm installation' shows 'no' though the box is checked 'yes' when you choose 'Configure'.
Sorry, cant reproduce. Works for me. Can you show exactly how trigger this bug?
- Soundcards which are autodetected do not show up in the list and can't be selected/configured
Sound card configuration in 9.1 has some problems that were fixed.
Guess thats not all but I feel frustrated and will take a few days off trying to tweak my config.xml by hand next week. Here I ask again : Is there a complete reference of available xml tags for autoyast ? Is there a better documentation ? Is autoyast supported or unsupported by SuSE ?
Of course its supported. Anas
Henrik
Anas Nashif wrote:
yeah, looks like autoyast support was dropped. Btw, LPRNG support will be dropped in the next release.
What??? Are you kidding? I know it's not your decision, but how can SuSE drop lprng??? cups is so far from being as stable as lpr is, so how can SuSE remove that... What comes next, dropping lilo for grub? Doh! There are some Unix classics that should never be missed in a Linux distribution, and lpr(ng) is definitely one of them :-( (I repeat, I'm not blaming you, Anas :-). Just had to say that...) -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. Bioinformatik Mail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. *
V Pá, 23. 07. 2004 v 07:43, Frank Steiner píše:
Anas Nashif wrote:
yeah, looks like autoyast support was dropped. Btw, LPRNG support will be dropped in the next release.
What??? Are you kidding? I know it's not your decision, but how can SuSE drop lprng??? cups is so far from being as stable as lpr is, so how can SuSE remove that... What comes next, dropping lilo for grub?
Doh! There are some Unix classics that should never be missed in a Linux distribution, and lpr(ng) is definitely one of them :-(
SUSE won't drop LPRng (or lpdfilter or any other package needed for printing via LPRng). What will be dropped is the support for LPRng/lpdfilter in YaST (and AutoYaST). And regarding LILO/GRUB: GRUB is the preferred bootloader. But there are still machines with broken BIOSes where GRUB doesn't work properly (or doesn't work at all). That's why LILO can't be dropped in the near future - neither the package itself nor the (Auto)YaST support. -- Regards, Jiri Srain YaST2 developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SuSE CR, s.r.o. e-mail: jsrain@suse.cz Drahobejlova 27 tel: +420 2 9654 2373 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 2 9654 2374 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz
Jiri Srain wrote:
SUSE won't drop LPRng (or lpdfilter or any other package needed for printing via LPRng). What will be dropped is the support for LPRng/lpdfilter in YaST (and AutoYaST).
Ok, thanks for clarifying that. It's a great relief to hear that!
And regarding LILO/GRUB: GRUB is the preferred bootloader. But there are still machines with broken BIOSes where GRUB doesn't work properly (or doesn't work at all). That's why LILO can't be dropped in the near future - neither the package itself nor the (Auto)YaST support.
Also very good to hear that because we have some of these machines. Thanks a lot for your quick answer, you saved my day ;-) cu, Frank -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. Bioinformatik Mail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. *
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Anas Nashif wrote: Thanks for your reply. Nevertheless I'm still confused.
Here is my short buglist :
- 'Create reference profile' is broken. It does not create entries for network, partitions, sound etc.
sound, network work for me. partitioning does not work, looking into this.
I have a fully installed 9.1 with working network and sound. I expected that network and sound are configured when I choose 'Create Reference Profile'. They are not. Its fine if it does work for you but it is broken here. How can I help to fix it ? I use a vanilla ASUS P4P800 Deluxe boards with onboard network and sound, perfectly autodetected and configured while installing SuSE from DVD.
- Removing single packages with 'Software->Package Selection' does not remove them from the list when saving.
cant reproduce, please send me detailed description how trigger this..
Expl.: I select 'Package Selection'. I have Basis-Devel, Basis-Sound, Kde-Desktop, MINIMAL, Office, SuSE-Documentation, X11 and 86 individually selected packages. I select 'Configure->Detailed selection' and get a conflict warning between lprng and cups. I check 'Remove all 3 Conflicting Packages' and the conflict is no more. I also manually deselect cups-drivers package and press 'Accept' to finalize my package selection. I save this selection. Next time I enter the configuration its the same as before. Still the conflict, still the cups-driver package. Simple question is : how do I tell autoyast not to install the cups packages conflicting with lprng. Or more generally : How do I tell autoyast to delete a package from a list at all. I can individually add packages but I can't individually remove them with autoyast.
Works for me. If you choose a VESA/LCD monitor depth is forced back to 16. This is not a bug.
I did choose a LCD monitor. Why can't it select 24bit for it ?
- 'General->Confirm installation' shows 'no' though the box is checked 'yes' when you choose 'Configure'.
Sorry, cant reproduce. Works for me. Can you show exactly how trigger this bug?
Choose 'Create Reference Profile'. Read 'System->General Options'. 'Confirn installation' shows 'No' though the default is yes and it will force you to confirm installation if you try. Hope this helps Henrik -- Henrik Schmidt Christian-Albrechts-Universitaet zu Kiel Institut fuer Informatik +49 (431) 880 75 - 50 Fax or 43 Phone Olshausenstr. 40 http://www.ks.informatik.uni-kiel.de 24098 Kiel, Germany email: hbs@ks.informatik.uni-kiel.de
Simple question is : how do I tell autoyast not to install the cups packages conflicting with lprng. Or more generally : How do I tell autoyast to delete a package from a list at all. I can individually add packages but I can't individually remove them with autoyast.
Can't you just do: <remove-packages config:type="list"> <package>cups</package> </remove-packages> as it says at: http://www.suse.de/~nashif/autoinstall/9.1/html/CreateProfile.Software .html#id2523534 (where "cups" is a package you want to remove). Dave C --------------------------------------------------------- David Corlette mailto:corlette@huarp.harvard.edu (617)495-5922 http://www.arp.harvard.edu
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, David Corlette wrote:
Simple question is : how do I tell autoyast not to install the cups packages conflicting with lprng. Or more generally : How do I tell autoyast to delete a package from a list at all. I can individually add packages but I can't individually remove them with autoyast.
Can't you just do: <remove-packages config:type="list"> <package>cups</package> </remove-packages> as it says at: http://www.suse.de/~nashif/autoinstall/9.1/html/CreateProfile.Software .html#id2523534
I will try that. But I thought the yast2 autoyast GUI will do that for me when I delete a package. My hope was I don't have to hack the xml all by hand but it seems I have to. Thanks Henrik -- Henrik Schmidt Christian-Albrechts-Universitaet zu Kiel Institut fuer Informatik +49 (431) 880 75 - 50 Fax or 43 Phone Olshausenstr. 40 http://www.ks.informatik.uni-kiel.de 24098 Kiel, Germany email: hbs@ks.informatik.uni-kiel.de
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