Re: [opensuse-artwork] Meeting Scheduled
Jos, What about the recurrent problem that meetings and discussions are being carried out, often with decisions being made, without the participation of the actual contributors putting stuff in the distribution? This Saturday for example is terrible for me, given I'm tied up with other stuff - I don't expect the world to revolve around me, but I would think as one of those more knowledgeable about the Release process, it would have been nice if I could have had a say about the scheduling so I could contribute. Richard Brown Systems Engineering Team Leader City College Brighton and Hove
Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> 01/17/13 11:11 AM >>> On Thursday 17 January 2013 07:43:04 Marcus Moeller wrote: Am 17.01.2013 06:18, schrieb DuBois, Scott L.: Sounds like a plan. I should be able to hang out for a little bit.
For those who need to convert time zones (as I did) here is a nice little link: http://www.timezoneconverter.com/
So for me, I need to be in the IRC at noon Saturday.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Michael Fox <mfoxdogg@gmail.com> wrote:
A meeting has been scheduled for Saturday 9pm (CET) in #opensuse-artwork @ freenode
Due to the proximity of the release, only crucial issues and progress only, as to not derail release thus this meeting is for progress reports and to show what is happening and to ask for any assistance (so should be a short meeting) to organise efforts and know exactly what is going on and when should be finished for testing.
Then it will be open floor for anyone to ask for clarification and discuss any issues on their minds related to release, however final decisions will be made on the ML.
Now I must stress this meeting/gathering is going ahead no matter what and at this time, no changes will be made and any mails related to this one will be ignored. Any changes can be asked for at the meeting,
I still don't support this. Michael is doing it exactly the same way as andi did for the flicker contest jury.
For me the weekend is for private life. If we want to do regular meetings, I would prefer if we would schedule it on a weekday.
We can never accommodate everyone, can we? I would personally have suggested to use a http://www.doodle.com/ way of picking a good date/time but if nobody shows up here, that's proof enough it doesn't work and if most/all show up, that shows it works. Don't take it to heavily for now...
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On Thursday 17 January 2013 21:16:32 Richard Brown wrote:
Jos,
What about the recurrent problem that meetings and discussions are being carried out, often with decisions being made, without the participation of the actual contributors putting stuff in the distribution?
People can, by definition, only decide what THEY will do. And who does the work decides (unless two people do the work on one thing and get in conflict). So decisions mean very little when the maintainer of whatever is being discussed isn't there... (which is a good reason why it would be wise to try and have meetings at a time when at least the maintainers of the artwork in openSUSE, one of which is you, can be there)
This Saturday for example is terrible for me, given I'm tied up with other stuff - I don't expect the world to revolve around me, but I would think as one of those more knowledgeable about the Release process, it would have been nice if I could have had a say about the scheduling so I could contribute.
Richard Brown Systems Engineering Team Leader City College Brighton and Hove
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:04:41 +0100 Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote: ...
People can, by definition, only decide what THEY will do. ...
Right, so there is no need that maintainer is present, at least when plan is clear and there are plenty of topics that are never touched. Also, we should never forget that branding for 12.3 is just one of tasks that people can take on, and if they feel uncomfortable with it there are other areas that need some work. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 18 January 2013 18:34:31 Rajko wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:04:41 +0100 Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
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People can, by definition, only decide what THEY will do. ...
Right, so there is no need that maintainer is present, at least when plan is clear and there are plenty of topics that are never touched.
Sure, as long as the people don't think they can make final decisions on things which are not maintained by them, then fine. There's plenty of stuff which isn't maintained at all (or doesn't need a maintainer, like artwork for stickers, flyers, posters, t-shirts, the conference and other events - etc, which we all need DESPERATELY. Let me repeat - a good design for a sticker or improvements to the flyers, a t-shirt design - boy, would that be awesome. I hereby promise anyone who comes up with a half-decent* t-shirt design gets a t-shirt of his (her) own design in his (her) size signed by the entire openSUSE team AND a few extra for the fun of it. (half-decent meaning good enough that we decide to print a bunch - and right now, we're printing *NOTHING* simply because we have NO good design) Oh and the same for posters and stickers. There you go. Should be enough to have a few meetings about :D
Also, we should never forget that branding for 12.3 is just one of tasks that people can take on, and if they feel uncomfortable with it there are other areas that need some work.
Exactly. See above :D /Jos
oh dammit, I hope this is not for me :D kkkk "(half-decent meaning good enough that we decide to print a bunch - and right now, we're printing *NOTHING* simply because we have NO good design)" arghhh now you make me furious man, and I will prove you are wrong, at least when I´m here starting to playing on this historical for troubles artwork team rsrs and with others I hope we will find lots of ways to prove at least for our self that we does have a really good design. **I will make you to eat each word and sentence when you used "we have NO good design.." ** kkkkk, no catchup, no mustard, no maionese, nothing will help you to eat it kkk So I decided to create one of 4, 5 images that I have in my mind that could be used for t-shirts or to be used together with announcements about oSC' 13 in news.oo or even for flyers, stickers, badges, ... Here is the link you can find the images I've created few minutes ago. https://picasaweb.google.com/104830275042059445407/OSC13#5836103563601111442 https://picasaweb.google.com/104830275042059445407/OSC13#5836104007691833746 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 01:16:32 -0200 Carlos Ribeiro <carlosalberto.net@gmail.com> wrote:
oh dammit, I hope this is not for me :D kkkk ... Here is the link you can find the images I've created few minutes ago. https://picasaweb.google.com/104830275042059445407/OSC13#5836103563601111442 https://picasaweb.google.com/104830275042059445407/OSC13#5836104007691833746
And what about those? https://plus.google.com/photos/104830275042059445407/albums/5833447105439836... If that is not good enough for t-shirt (when you skip text) then I don't know what is. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 21:58 -0600, Rajko wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 01:16:32 -0200 Carlos Ribeiro <carlosalberto.net@gmail.com> wrote:
oh dammit, I hope this is not for me :D kkkk ... Here is the link you can find the images I've created few minutes ago. https://picasaweb.google.com/104830275042059445407/OSC13#5836103563601111442 https://picasaweb.google.com/104830275042059445407/OSC13#5836104007691833746
And what about those?
https://plus.google.com/photos/104830275042059445407/albums/5833447105439836...
If that is not good enough for t-shirt (when you skip text) then I don't know what is.
-- Regards, Rajko.
I'm confused. These are conference-related designs. Isn't Jos asking for general openSUSE designs that can be distributed to multiple events? Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
"Isn't Jos asking for general openSUSE designs that can be distributed to multiple events?" could be :D but even it is related to the general openSUSE things, oh my gosh jos was so rude, I mean, everyone that knows him understand that he is an dammit nice and polite guy, so now I´m confusing too. @Jos what are making you to suffer about artwork. Not only me but all of artwork team I believe have the same goal and are more than ready to understand your points. I know I was out for so long, but others not, and everyone I HOPE are here to help you to help us to help the project to help the rest of the world. I do not know too much about the actual status of the artwork team, but I know that we have tons of things to do, to finish, to make things happen. some bullets about what you see as priorities or what are making you dissapointed about our design are more than welcome, and we will figure out the best way to fix this. keep spreading hugs jos, maybe Iḿ not the best guy to tell this, but do like some friends of mine "read, ponder and make questions" by the way, I let more pics that I made to be moderated, commented, or just to see if that pics help something in the project or to be more focused in the Conference. https://picasaweb.google.com/104830275042059445407/OSC13#5836338693365346850 https://picasaweb.google.com/104830275042059445407/OSC13#5836339212930903570 CarlosRibeiro 2013/1/22 Bryen M Yunashko <suserocks@bryen.com>:
On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 21:58 -0600, Rajko wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 01:16:32 -0200 Carlos Ribeiro <carlosalberto.net@gmail.com> wrote:
oh dammit, I hope this is not for me :D kkkk ... Here is the link you can find the images I've created few minutes ago. https://picasaweb.google.com/104830275042059445407/OSC13#5836103563601111442 https://picasaweb.google.com/104830275042059445407/OSC13#5836104007691833746
And what about those?
https://plus.google.com/photos/104830275042059445407/albums/5833447105439836...
If that is not good enough for t-shirt (when you skip text) then I don't know what is.
-- Regards, Rajko.
I'm confused. These are conference-related designs. Isn't Jos asking for general openSUSE designs that can be distributed to multiple events?
Bryen
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:20:45 -0600 Bryen M Yunashko <suserocks@bryen.com> wrote:
I'm confused. These are conference-related designs. Isn't Jos asking for general openSUSE designs that can be distributed to multiple events?
Didn't you notice that Carlos is genius. Laurel branch is universal symbol of winning Geeko :) Put some text around and you have event specific design. Leave it alone and you have nice T-Shirt design. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
What kind of artwork are you thinking of? Just plain logo kind of stuff good for t-shirts? No version numbers or anything? On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Friday 18 January 2013 18:34:31 Rajko wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:04:41 +0100 Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
...
People can, by definition, only decide what THEY will do. ...
Right, so there is no need that maintainer is present, at least when plan is clear and there are plenty of topics that are never touched.
Sure, as long as the people don't think they can make final decisions on things which are not maintained by them, then fine. There's plenty of stuff which isn't maintained at all (or doesn't need a maintainer, like artwork for stickers, flyers, posters, t-shirts, the conference and other events - etc, which we all need DESPERATELY. Let me repeat - a good design for a sticker or improvements to the flyers, a t-shirt design - boy, would that be awesome.
I hereby promise anyone who comes up with a half-decent* t-shirt design gets a t-shirt of his (her) own design in his (her) size signed by the entire openSUSE team AND a few extra for the fun of it.
(half-decent meaning good enough that we decide to print a bunch - and right now, we're printing *NOTHING* simply because we have NO good design)
Oh and the same for posters and stickers. There you go. Should be enough to have a few meetings about :D
Also, we should never forget that branding for 12.3 is just one of tasks that people can take on, and if they feel uncomfortable with it there are other areas that need some work.
Exactly. See above :D
/Jos
-- God bless ! Scott DuBois www.ROGUEHORSE.com openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
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