On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:

Am 22.12.2012 16:21, schrieb Andres Silva:

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Andy (anditosan)

On Dec 22, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:

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Am 22.12.2012 15:51, schrieb Andres Silva:

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How about these ones?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tian2992/6879668330/in/pool-opensuse-artwork/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/80053555@N00/8014060835/in/pool-opensuse-artwor...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lalo_pangue/8159548972/in/pool-opensuse-artwork

Although these are photographic, they meet the design guidelines of artwork for the distro. They can be re-licensed if needed or resized easier with a script that it-s is making.

Resizing works well with SVGs. On Photos you always have to cut off something.

As mentioned before, photos could go into a supplementary package.

Greets Marcus

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Andy (anditosan)

On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Marcus Moeller mailto:mail@marcusmoeller.ch> wrote:

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Hi all.

As the 12.3 release date gets closer, we should focus on preparing the artwork, now.

From what I can see, we got proposals from Victor:

http://paste.opensuse.org/44822206

and the one Ivan, Richard and I was working on:

http://marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_3/grow_05.png

The latter has been prepared to work well with the produkt-based Plasma theme that is in testing in K:D:F and Factory right now.

There are already a lot of submissions on the flickr page, but from what I can see, at least the non-photographic designs, does not fullfil our logo guidelines. The photos could of course be bundled to a supplementary wallpaper package. (who will do the work?)

I would like to suggest to push the above two proposals to factory and continue working on it. We would also gain more feedback this way.

Is that okay for you?

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Then, that means that you have chosen yourself to make yourself the person who can put up wallpaper on the distribution. I think, that the better approach is to ask the community to provide pictures that match the criteria that you are setting for submitting images. As they make their submissions, the rest of the community can vote on which one is the better one.

The reason I propose this is because your idea seems very nondemocratic.

What do you think?

Everyone can contribute artwork and is invented to do so. Coordination can be done on this list. Work is done on Github and Factory (as always). The artwork team itself should agree on which design should be used for the core distribution art.

Supplementary artwork (like photos) can of course be submitted through something like a contest, but this has to be worked out together, not only by you.

This process is established and used by other distributions like Fedora and Ubuntu (but they are doing the core art at Canonical).

Greets Marcus

I agree with your opinion. But you have to see that nominating your own image to be the default turn the release into openSUSE 12.3 Marcus Edition and not a community edition. That is why I think it is better, maybe under different conditions than previously posted, to have a variety of images to chose from and ask the rest of the community to chose one. We are not Ubuntu or Fedora. Additionally, asking only this team goes somewhat against what you have mentioned before about community involvement in this process. Also remember that there were also proposals by "simon123" and "mfoxdogg" about creating wallpapers with the idea of watercolors. Using zen-like themes. Your image does not have these elements. Chosing this image or Victor's makes that proposal invalid. I think we need to take all contributions into account and all proposals into account and have the rest of the community chose. Andy (anditosan) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org

Am 22.12.2012 17:05, schrieb Andres Silva:

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:

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Am 22.12.2012 16:21, schrieb Andres Silva:

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Andy (anditosan)

On Dec 22, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:

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Am 22.12.2012 15:51, schrieb Andres Silva:

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How about these ones?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tian2992/6879668330/in/pool-opensuse-artwork/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/80053555@N00/8014060835/in/pool-opensuse-artwor...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lalo_pangue/8159548972/in/pool-opensuse-artwork

Although these are photographic, they meet the design guidelines of artwork for the distro. They can be re-licensed if needed or resized easier with a script that it-s is making.

Resizing works well with SVGs. On Photos you always have to cut off something.

As mentioned before, photos could go into a supplementary package.

Greets Marcus

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Andy (anditosan)

On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Marcus Moeller mailto:mail@marcusmoeller.ch> wrote:

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Hi all.

As the 12.3 release date gets closer, we should focus on preparing the artwork, now.

From what I can see, we got proposals from Victor:

http://paste.opensuse.org/44822206

and the one Ivan, Richard and I was working on:

http://marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_3/grow_05.png

The latter has been prepared to work well with the produkt-based Plasma theme that is in testing in K:D:F and Factory right now.

There are already a lot of submissions on the flickr page, but from what I can see, at least the non-photographic designs, does not fullfil our logo guidelines. The photos could of course be bundled to a supplementary wallpaper package. (who will do the work?)

I would like to suggest to push the above two proposals to factory and continue working on it. We would also gain more feedback this way.

Is that okay for you?

Greets Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org mailto:opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org mailto:opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org

Then, that means that you have chosen yourself to make yourself the person who can put up wallpaper on the distribution. I think, that the better approach is to ask the community to provide pictures that match the criteria that you are setting for submitting images. As they make their submissions, the rest of the community can vote on which one is the better one.

The reason I propose this is because your idea seems very nondemocratic.

What do you think?

Everyone can contribute artwork and is invented to do so. Coordination can be done on this list. Work is done on Github and Factory (as always). The artwork team itself should agree on which design should be used for the core distribution art.

Supplementary artwork (like photos) can of course be submitted through something like a contest, but this has to be worked out together, not only by you.

This process is established and used by other distributions like Fedora and Ubuntu (but they are doing the core art at Canonical).

Greets Marcus

I agree with your opinion. But you have to see that nominating your own image to be the default turn the release into openSUSE 12.3 Marcus Edition and not a community edition. That is why I think it is better, maybe under different conditions than previously posted, to have a variety of images to chose from and ask the rest of the community to chose one. We are not Ubuntu or Fedora. Additionally, asking only this team goes somewhat against what you have mentioned before about community involvement in this process.

Also remember that there were also proposals by "simon123" and "mfoxdogg" about creating wallpapers with the idea of watercolors. Using zen-like themes. Your image does not have these elements. Chosing this image or Victor's makes that proposal invalid.

I think we need to take all contributions into account and all proposals into account and have the rest of the community chose.

Hey, please keep reality in mind: there are no valuable contributions but Victors and mine till now and we still got a lot of work to do. Artwork is not created by writing down a concept but by drawing it. As mentioned before, continuing on -factory will also lead to more feedback. There is nothing set into stone, yet. Greets Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org

Hi,

Sorry to jump in here.

Does the Wallpaper Contest end?

I made a wallpaper here in our openSUSE Google+ Community:

https://plus.google.com/104457027777866534434/posts/CRb1hWFdM9Z

Great geeko image ;) Greets Marcus

it needs some tweaks to agree our guidelines, but I have my hands full right now, my daily job eats almost 24 hours a day until Jan. 10th, 2013. (well I still owe us a 12.2 KDM theme)

Can I catch up the train if I start when I'm ready then?

Thanks

Marguerite

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Am 22.12.2012 18:13, schrieb Rajko:

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0700 Andres Silva wrote:

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I think we need to take all contributions into account and all proposals into account and have the rest of the community chose.

That is basic idea behind contest that was put on hold.

IMHO, we should proceed where we stopped with people that support idea. There will be always someone that doesn't agree, and even has ideas that are directly opposite.

Victor's proposal is actually something different and original. With a color touch and increased contrast it looks (to me) much better:

http://paste.opensuse.org/41732069

Don't complain about details :)

It was fast change on bitmap image to demonstrate that use of colors can improve feeling. There are details to work on, if Victor will provide svg. For instance adding spot light feeling like in:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/83964716@N03/8041523700/in/pool-opensuse-artwor...

What I like in above is contrast, light reflection on letters. It is all green, but looks - optimistic. Take Geeko constellation and add that same light reflection, and it will look optimistic too.

Also, I would not discard option to have some of photos as default. When it looks good, it is good. Windows XP lived long with default photo background and it twisted it on different screens without ill effects.

As the XP default wallpaper only contains a flat landscape that can easily be cropped, left or right. I is very hard to find images that work well this way. Greets Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org