Re: [opensuse-artwork] RFC: Flickr instructions

DuBois, Scott L.

15 Jan 2013 15 Jan '13

18:28

That is very cool! The work done can be exported as well or items from other works can be imported in. I also like the function that contributors can be highlighted in different colors which makes it easy to see who wrote what. I still like the comments feature on Google Docs though which makes it nice to keep the page clean and allow others to come in and make comments on the various areas of document. I understand how some people don't like the idea of using Google Docs for whatever reason but, as far as I know, The Document Foundation has not produced a full web based version of their Libre suite. Sharing documents does not require any passwords or account set up. As the instructions state, the collaboration design was set up particularly with the kinds of work we do as well as students or global operations. People are scattered all over the place and rather than email documents around, we can follow a link to a document to work on it together from anywhere. There are of course other programs just like the one you pointed out, we just need to find them and try them out then let everyone else know about them. https://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2494822 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM, DuBois, Scott L. wrote:

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That is very cool! The work done can be exported as well or items from other works can be imported in. I also like the function that contributors can be highlighted in different colors which makes it easy to see who wrote what.

I still like the comments feature on Google Docs though which makes it nice to keep the page clean and allow others to come in and make comments on the various areas of document. I understand how some people don't like the idea of using Google Docs for whatever reason but, as far as I know, The Document Foundation has not produced a full web based version of their Libre suite.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Friday 11 January 2013 12:07:20 DuBois, Scott L. wrote:

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I have to say that I don't understand the opposition to using free collaborative tools that have the potential to make document sharing easy for everyone.

Neither do I - but luckily, there are better (open source!) replacements for Google Docs when it comes to pure writing: piratepad. I suggest to try to use that - it has an even lower barrier to use, never requires passwords etc.

The only downside is that it is decidedly not useable for long-term storage but that is not a huge deal for something like this.

Hugs, Jos

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Marcus Moeller

15 Jan 15 Jan

18:31

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] RFC: Flickr instructions

Hey guys,

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That is very cool! The work done can be exported as well or items from other works can be imported in. I also like the function that contributors can be highlighted in different colors which makes it easy to see who wrote what.

I still like the comments feature on Google Docs though which makes it nice to keep the page clean and allow others to come in and make comments on the various areas of document. I understand how some people don't like the idea of using Google Docs for whatever reason but, as far as I know, The Document Foundation has not produced a full web based version of their Libre suite.

Sharing documents does not require any passwords or account set up. As the instructions state, the collaboration design was set up particularly with the kinds of work we do as well as students or global operations. People are scattered all over the place and rather than email documents around, we can follow a link to a document to work on it together from anywhere. There are of course other programs just like the one you pointed out, we just need to find them and try them out then let everyone else know about them.

https://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2494822

I am still not sure what's wrong with simply creating a wiki page on that. Everyone in the project does it that way. The wiki also offers a discussion functionality as additional feature. Greets Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org

DuBois, Scott L.

19:58

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Can you show me a link example? I just did a quick scan through and find immediate references to information relating to various topics, but nothing as a concrete "preliminary" working space. Maybe create a "Thoughts and Ideas" wiki page? I understand what you're alluding to using the wiki directly as preliminary and final draft but what about those ideas that never reach fruition? Just delete the page? Is it ok to have a lot of half written pages or collaborative pages that are just idea kicking pages? On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:

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Hey guys,

...
That is very cool! The work done can be exported as well or items from other works can be imported in. I also like the function that contributors can be highlighted in different colors which makes it easy to see who wrote what.

I still like the comments feature on Google Docs though which makes it nice to keep the page clean and allow others to come in and make comments on the various areas of document. I understand how some people don't like the idea of using Google Docs for whatever reason but, as far as I know, The Document Foundation has not produced a full web based version of their Libre suite.

Sharing documents does not require any passwords or account set up. As the instructions state, the collaboration design was set up particularly with the kinds of work we do as well as students or global operations. People are scattered all over the place and rather than email documents around, we can follow a link to a document to work on it together from anywhere. There are of course other programs just like the one you pointed out, we just need to find them and try them out then let everyone else know about them.

https://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2494822

I am still not sure what's wrong with simply creating a wiki page on that. Everyone in the project does it that way.

The wiki also offers a discussion functionality as additional feature.

Greets Marcus

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Marcus Moeller

20:38

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] RFC: Flickr instructions

Am 15.01.2013 20:58, schrieb DuBois, Scott L.:

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Can you show me a link example? I just did a quick scan through and find immediate references to information relating to various topics, but nothing as a concrete "preliminary" working space. Maybe create a "Thoughts and Ideas" wiki page? I understand what you're alluding to using the wiki directly as preliminary and final draft but what about those ideas that never reach fruition? Just delete the page? Is it ok to have a lot of half written pages or collaborative pages that are just idea kicking pages?

Just create the Artwork_Contest_Rules page and paste some initial content. Afterwards we can work on it. To monitor the changes, create a Watch on it. The Discussions function can be used to discuss the content of a wiki page. When it's finished link it from: http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Artwork Also, most of the artwork pages needs to be reworked, e.g. they link to the old git resources, contain obsolete logos etc. Give it a try, and start re-working, with the information you can find in recent discussions. If something is not clear, don't be shy and ask. Greets Marcus

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:

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Hey guys,

...
That is very cool! The work done can be exported as well or items from other works can be imported in. I also like the function that contributors can be highlighted in different colors which makes it easy to see who wrote what.

I still like the comments feature on Google Docs though which makes it nice to keep the page clean and allow others to come in and make comments on the various areas of document. I understand how some people don't like the idea of using Google Docs for whatever reason but, as far as I know, The Document Foundation has not produced a full web based version of their Libre suite.

Sharing documents does not require any passwords or account set up. As the instructions state, the collaboration design was set up particularly with the kinds of work we do as well as students or global operations. People are scattered all over the place and rather than email documents around, we can follow a link to a document to work on it together from anywhere. There are of course other programs just like the one you pointed out, we just need to find them and try them out then let everyone else know about them.

https://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2494822

I am still not sure what's wrong with simply creating a wiki page on that. Everyone in the project does it that way.

The wiki also offers a discussion functionality as additional feature.

Greets Marcus

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DuBois, Scott L.

16 Jan 16 Jan

00:40

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] RFC: Flickr instructions

Done. I got the page started with a couple of headings and an intent description. It's been a while since I could just sit and write any wiki. We'll see where it goes from here? I've put watches on other pages in the past but have not been instructed as to where to look to view those watches. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Marcus Moeller wrote:

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Am 15.01.2013 20:58, schrieb DuBois, Scott L.:

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Can you show me a link example? I just did a quick scan through and find immediate references to information relating to various topics, but nothing as a concrete "preliminary" working space. Maybe create a "Thoughts and Ideas" wiki page? I understand what you're alluding to using the wiki directly as preliminary and final draft but what about those ideas that never reach fruition? Just delete the page? Is it ok to have a lot of half written pages or collaborative pages that are just idea kicking pages?

Just create the Artwork_Contest_Rules page and paste some initial content. Afterwards we can work on it.

To monitor the changes, create a Watch on it.

The Discussions function can be used to discuss the content of a wiki page.

When it's finished link it from:

http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Artwork

Also, most of the artwork pages needs to be reworked, e.g. they link to the old git resources, contain obsolete logos etc.

Give it a try, and start re-working, with the information you can find in recent discussions. If something is not clear, don't be shy and ask.

Greets Marcus

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:

...
Hey guys,

...
That is very cool! The work done can be exported as well or items from other works can be imported in. I also like the function that contributors can be highlighted in different colors which makes it easy to see who wrote what.

I still like the comments feature on Google Docs though which makes it nice to keep the page clean and allow others to come in and make comments on the various areas of document. I understand how some people don't like the idea of using Google Docs for whatever reason but, as far as I know, The Document Foundation has not produced a full web based version of their Libre suite.

Sharing documents does not require any passwords or account set up. As the instructions state, the collaboration design was set up particularly with the kinds of work we do as well as students or global operations. People are scattered all over the place and rather than email documents around, we can follow a link to a document to work on it together from anywhere. There are of course other programs just like the one you pointed out, we just need to find them and try them out then let everyone else know about them.

https://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2494822

I am still not sure what's wrong with simply creating a wiki page on that. Everyone in the project does it that way.

The wiki also offers a discussion functionality as additional feature.

Greets Marcus

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org

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Rajko

04:22

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] RFC: Flickr instructions

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:40:25 -0800 "DuBois, Scott L." wrote:

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I got the page started with a couple of headings and an intent description.

I started page about Flickr rules right after first complains :) It is listed in http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Artwork on right side in the frame "All of artwork" in subcategory "Artwork drafts" as: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OpenSUSE-artwork_group_at_Flickr To include page you started in the same frame, just add at the bottom of that page: [[Category:Artwork drafts]] It is subcategory of Artwork, and that will indicate that people deal with drafts, not real instructions, rules, etc. "OpenSUSE-artwork_group_at_Flickr" has the same content as Google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K9PNnCvmGU1lC-FG1UQ_2BSHPVip-Y3Ap2-k2OuQ... that is since few days editable by anyone. (Sorry for that, but docs sharing defaults to view, and it took your comment to find link where I can make it editable.) -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org

DuBois, Scott L.

04:48

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Thank you for this. No worries my friend, we all learn something new everyday ; ) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Rajko wrote:

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:40:25 -0800 "DuBois, Scott L." wrote:

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I got the page started with a couple of headings and an intent description.

I started page about Flickr rules right after first complains :)

It is listed in http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Artwork on right side in the frame "All of artwork" in subcategory "Artwork drafts" as:

http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OpenSUSE-artwork_group_at_Flickr

To include page you started in the same frame, just add at the bottom of that page:

[[Category:Artwork drafts]]

It is subcategory of Artwork, and that will indicate that people deal with drafts, not real instructions, rules, etc.

"OpenSUSE-artwork_group_at_Flickr" has the same content as Google doc:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K9PNnCvmGU1lC-FG1UQ_2BSHPVip-Y3Ap2-k2OuQ...

that is since few days editable by anyone. (Sorry for that, but docs sharing defaults to view, and it took your comment to find link where I can make it editable.)

-- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org

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Marcus Moeller

18 Jan 18 Jan

07:29

New subject: [opensuse-artwork] RFC: Flickr instructions

Hi all.

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Thank you for this.

No worries my friend, we all learn something new everyday ; )

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Rajko wrote:

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:40:25 -0800 "DuBois, Scott L." wrote:

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I got the page started with a couple of headings and an intent description.

I started page about Flickr rules right after first complains :)

It is listed in http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Artwork on right side in the frame "All of artwork" in subcategory "Artwork drafts" as:

http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OpenSUSE-artwork_group_at_Flickr

For me that page looks good. We still need to define how images are picked for inclusion. We've had a doodle for 12.2 which I personally did not find that bad. But someone needs to pick all images that fullfil our guidelines in advance. Then, everyone could e.g. have three votes and we count the images with the most votes. We could pick ~10 of them for inclusion in a supplementary wallpaper package for 12.3. This would also help us to gain more experience with raster images. I have added the above tasks to: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Artwork_Todo Feel free to put your name on the list and start working on it. Greets Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org

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