1. I think a complete move away from SVG's would be a total, unadulterated mistake. The *fact* is, we operate in a situation where we need artwork to work in a multitude of environments. We have everything from the 'simple' requirement of 4 aspect ratios (4:3, 5:4, 16:9, 16:10), to the dark and complex requirements of GRUB and our bootloaders where we're often constrained in terms of colour depth and resolution. We currently have the tooling that makes that work well, and I don't think people truly realise how much work would be required if we didn't use svgs at all. Furthermore, our chosen artwork is often used as the base of countless marketing materials, and vector formats make life a lot easier when it comes to pulling apart and 'toying' with a design while still keeping the core feel of the design. Cropping can only go so far, though that is often the only option we have in Raster-land. All of that said, I understand that we now have artists who are raster centric, and I want to ensure there is every opportunity for such contributions to be used. This is why I am currently supporting Eugenes suggestion of a vector GRUB/bootloader (and YaST installer?) design, where the benefits of vector designs are not only welcome but pretty much necessary, but having default wallpapers in Desktops be open to Raster designs. That said, last time we tried that, we ended up with *zero* usable Raster designs, because of either the submitted sources being too low resolution and not in required aspect ratios, or because of licensing issues, which brings me to #2 2. The openSUSE project is responsible for ensuring the correct licensing of all of the materials contained within our distribution. While Flickr is great, and does give a place for an artist to claim what they believe their artwork is licensed under, this has proven insufficient in the past. We have had submissions where the artist claimed the design was covered by an open license, just for us to find out that it contained stock artwork that we, the project, was not licensed for. It won't be the artist, but the entire Project with egg on their face if we end up publishing unlicensed or inappropriately licensed artwork. We will need a vetting/confirmation process beyond that that Flickr provides, and I do fear that in some cases we may need to err on the side of caution if we cannot be sure of a contributors declaration of license. It's sad to say, but we can't always trust an artist at their word, even if not malicious not all artists fully understand the implication of proper licensing, copyright, derivatives, etc. I also dislike the forcing of people to use Flickr, as Flickr only supports Raster formats, and as I state above, I feel we still NEED vectors for some things (Boot stuff), and should still be able to use them in others (Wallpapers). If we are to have a single point of submission, it needs to support the full range of formats we can use in the distribution. Or we need to have multiple ways of submitting proposed designs for 12.3 3. +1, and I intend to help with this 4. +0.5 - I'm not strongly opposed to the idea, but I do think it needs careful consideration and agreement across the project. For example, I'm not sure if GNOME will want to shift away from Cantarell, and in the case of GNOME, we actually need 2-3 default fonts, not just one.. 5. +0.5 - I like the idea, but I personally prefer the idea of having 'dots' that increase in number to show progress and glow to show activity. Progress bars are so boring :) 6. ....there is no 6 7. I think it would be a mistake for KDE to go in this direction. In the past we've had complaints in GNOME that having the login screen looking like the boot screen is bad and confusing. That's one reason I'm supporting the idea of different default wallpaper from the Boot artwork. 8. +0.9 - I agree, as long as their artwork isn't horrible ugly. And it does raise the question, if we're not changing splash screens, should we be changing ANY upstream artwork? My personal opinion on that topic and the implications that has for an openSUSe 'brand' feeling is best saved for another thread :) Richard (sysrich / ilmehtar)

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Andres Silva 09/25/12 9:59 PM >>> Hello everyone

Eugene has already started the conversation about this subject of undertaking a plan to progressively re-brand the distribution. Given some conversations during the openSUSE Summit, we would like to become more specific about the changes that we "can" make for openSUSE 12.3 whenever this version comes out. Next release: 1 Move away from svg and use raster for wallpaper (Using Flickr artwork pool to draw images) 2 Flickr is used, make sure that the uploader is responsible for the correct liscensing of the image (Provide information about branding people's artwork) 3 Create upload guidelines for artwork contributors (Although there are some guidelines about this, there is no specific place for copyright in the wiki) 4 Change default font to OPEN SANS. (This font family is extensive and looks extra sharp on both KDE and GNOME, use full rgb subpixel rendering on KDE by default) 5 Change plymouth to a progress bar with a sparkling end (per request of some contributors and to keep a simple elegant understanding of the boot process, more details to come) 7 Change KDE splash screen to match Plymouth 8 Keep default splash screens for applications These are steps that can change with not a lot of effort. Please let us know of any extra ideas that could be taken into consideration for the next release. Andy (anditosan) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org