Re: [opensuse-artwork] for informations . OpenSUSE Design 13.1
Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
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2013/6/16 Andy Silva <anditosan1000@gmail.com <mailto:anditosan1000@gmail.com>>
Bruno Friedmann wrote:
Hey artists, I'm just sharing this nice exchange with opensourcepress
:-)
So what's up for 13.1 ?
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Subject: Re: OpenSUSE Design 13.1 Date: Wednesday 12 June 2013, 11.23:59 From: Olga Saborov<os@opensourcepress.de <mailto:os@opensourcepress.de>> To: Bruno Friedmann<bruno@ioda-net.ch <mailto:bruno@ioda-net.ch>>
Hallo Bruno,
thank you for your message. I'll try end of August again : )
Best regards, Olga
Am 06.06.13 14:47, schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
On Thursday 06 June 2013 13.50:15 you wrote:
Hello Bruno,
how are you? We are planing to design a new openSUSE box again. Could you please send me an actual visual konzept of a new version 13.1?
Thank you much!!!
Best regards, Olga
Hello Olga
You're kidding me right? :-)) At 4 months of the release, and from what I've read on the mailing list, we don't have any kind of definitive idea about what the final design will be.
I suppose, and guess we should have something or at least a clear idea of it end of August ...
Regards
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Bruno
Olga's concern is correct. We have not had any design movement in a couple of months for the distribution. This however, will "feel" this way since many of the visual elements introduced on 12.3 are carrying on to 13.1. The team does not foresee many drastic changes in the design of 13.1 visually.
At this point we are waiting on the packaging members to chose the wallpapers that will be used on 13.1 and then our work will include refined changes to 13.1 but will probably focus on marketing.
Why packaging members are choosing the wallpapers? This shouldn't be in group involving artwork-team at least?
Did I miss something?
Yes. During the last process of having a wallpaper there was a lot of decision-making that did not go well and stalled the process. Not only that, it also caused disagreement within the team. It was a common consensus then that for 13.1 we would ask the packagers to choose the wallpaper for the final release. Ilmehtar volunteered to do this and we are now waiting on him to choose the wallpapers we will use on 13.1. Once he gives us an list of selected images, we will proceed with the the rest of the work for 13.1.
Expect more news on this as soon as the wallpapers are chosen.
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Why packaging members are choosing the wallpapers?
+1 if you need a building project you ask an architect, if you need a diagnosis and therapy you ask a physician, etc
This shouldn't be in group involving artwork-team at least?
Did I miss something?
I missed that too. If there is/was a "getting work done" issue, if there is/was a "team organization and workflow" issue, if there is/was other issues, to take away the responsibility can't be the solution imo, particularly in the long time. Please forgive the external opinion :) Caig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
After the discussion in April (see: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-artwork/2013-04/msg00013.html ) I was under the impression that we were NOT changing the core/default artwork/wallpaper for openSUSE 13.1 As the only active packager for the branding packages at the moment, I certainly don't have the time to commit to a major reworking, and James highlighted a number of areas which we require improvement, all of which I'd much rather be spending my time on rather than the rather significant amount of work that is required to take a wallpaper and make it usable in the dozen locations we currently use it (I'm planning on doing a workshop on this complex packaging process at oSC 13 if any of you would like to come!) Another area I really want to expend my time on for this release is finally getting an 'Community Wallpaper' package put together My intention is to package up as many of the wallpapers submitted for 13.1 as possible, and therefore have them available for installation in openSUSE 13.1
From an artistic perspective there is no 'choosing' involved - I'm not going to make any judgement on whether or not the designs are artistically 'good' or not.
However, I'm only going to be able to package designs in the relevant file formats and aspect ratios that we actually use in the distribution - so as long as they're in a PNG or SVG format and available in 'HD or higher' 16:9, 16:10, 5:4 and 4:3 aspect ratios, they're in ...and if they're not, I'll do my best with any time I have left over to resize/reformat the designs to make them work, but it's possible they might end up being cut for time, as mine is limited I hope that clears things up, and thank you for all the great submissions so far, I'm really looking forward to getting them all in the distribution so we can showcase what a great artwork community we have Regards Richard On 18 June 2013 12:00, Caig <giacomosrv@gmail.com> wrote:
Why packaging members are choosing the wallpapers?
+1 if you need a building project you ask an architect, if you need a diagnosis and therapy you ask a physician, etc
This shouldn't be in group involving artwork-team at least?
Did I miss something?
I missed that too.
If there is/was a "getting work done" issue, if there is/was a "team organization and workflow" issue, if there is/was other issues, to take away the responsibility can't be the solution imo, particularly in the long time.
Please forgive the external opinion :)
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2013/6/18 Richard Brown <RBrownCCB@opensuse.org>
After the discussion in April (see: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-artwork/2013-04/msg00013.html ) I was under the impression that we were NOT changing the core/default artwork/wallpaper for openSUSE 13.1
As the only active packager for the branding packages at the moment, I certainly don't have the time to commit to a major reworking, and James highlighted a number of areas which we require improvement, all of which I'd much rather be spending my time on rather than the rather significant amount of work that is required to take a wallpaper and make it usable in the dozen locations we currently use it (I'm planning on doing a workshop on this complex packaging process at oSC 13 if any of you would like to come!)
Really really interested about this, I hope some materials will be available for who can't be at oSC.
Another area I really want to expend my time on for this release is finally getting an 'Community Wallpaper' package put together
My intention is to package up as many of the wallpapers submitted for 13.1 as possible, and therefore have them available for installation in openSUSE 13.1
From an artistic perspective there is no 'choosing' involved - I'm not going to make any judgement on whether or not the designs are artistically 'good' or not.
Ok, thank you for the clarification, until now I saw "to choose" in this discussion.
However, I'm only going to be able to package designs in the relevant file formats and aspect ratios that we actually use in the distribution - so as long as they're in a PNG or SVG format and available in 'HD or higher' 16:9, 16:10, 5:4 and 4:3 aspect ratios, they're in ...and if they're not, I'll do my best with any time I have left over to resize/reformat the designs to make them work, but it's possible they might end up being cut for time, as mine is limited
Imo artwork team members and users should prepare the needed images ready to be packaged. Maybe something like this can help a bit to simplify the "concept to package" workflow too: less time and work needed from packaging side, more possibilities from artwork side. Caig
I hope that clears things up, and thank you for all the great submissions so far, I'm really looking forward to getting them all in the distribution so we can showcase what a great artwork community we have
Regards
Richard
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Just saw openSUSE Artwork & Branding - Putting it all together https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/conference/osc2013/proposal/106 Caig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
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Andy Silva
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Caig
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Richard Brown