Re: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-themed-icons New Thread
I came across this email, thread and I would like to add my 2cents. I think you need to make sure you are leveraging the historical heritage of OpenSUSE correctly, while keeping in mind that future maintainability of the project is the main goal here. If I was to make a proposal (which I'm not. this is just a suggestion) I would go in a direction already existing in suse community and do something like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uoe15yu9dxnid5s/sampleIconSUSE.png a) it's simple as it only involves straight shapes b) it's original as it features circular design which (eve though suse used it for ages, is not so common on other desktops) c) easy to maintain as anyone can make an icon in this style (provided a template and a simple set of how-tos to follow) Keep in mid - this is just a suggestion, nothing more. Regards, Eugene
Uzair Shamim mailto:usershaman@gmail.com June 30, 2014 at 2:19 PM
Very nice, I like the chameleon tail coming out of the folders, that is a nice touch and the colours look great!
The only thing that seems strange (in my opinion anyways) is using a flat icon theme with that current suse oxygen theme. I always felt that oxygen tried to be as "glossy" as possible and the flat icons look a bit out of place. However this shouldn't be too hard to fix with some colour scheme tweaking and lowering the shading option.
If you could upload the icons I want to mess around with it a bit on my system to see if I can get a nice look with the color scheme Marcus posted before.
Keep up the great work!
victorhck mailto:correohck@gmail.com June 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM Hi all!!
I really don't know much about create icons theme... I just have play with oxygen theme, and restyling, adding things, removing other, changing colors, etc...
And I have made some icons in svg files Take a look how it looks and feel free to say your opinion...
- http://susepaste.org/36286066
've phun!
Andres Silva mailto:anditosan1000@gmail.com June 30, 2014 at 1:35 PM Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, Andy,
I just wanna share some of _my_ feelings off topic, maybe I didn't follow the trends all over the internet tight, but:
1. Do you think we are going too far about the color usage?
I know there's trend about flat icons/ low contrast colors that use something between blue and green for example.
But are we turning our heads too fast? eg: we're using a strong constrast colorscheme (black/green) in 13.1, and "light colors" everywhere in 13.2 which all look like "white" on low resolution screens and dim backlights?
For mobile devices/print materials, it may looks good because the backlights on them are stronger/the resolution is higher, light icons/colors are distinguishable and can help to protect eyes. But not all computers are products from Apple/Samsung with good color calibration, such colorschemes may look "low" and not impressive enough to be icons (if I can't distinguish them from white, how can I click them), and such colors all look like something with a white mask.
Take the green for example:
1.1 how do we distinguish openSUSE from Linux Mint now? To me: Mint was lighter green while openSUSE was darker green. 1.2 how do we distinguish openSUSE from Chakra now? To me: Chakra was light blue and openSUSE was green.
But now things changed.
2. Do you think we use too much "lines" and "flowers" on our default wallpapers?
Well that "abstract" style is actually good, but we're not creative enough. see these wallpapers:
http://hdwallbangun.com/downloadwall/green-wallpaper-vector-awesome-simple.h...
It gave me the feeling that we care too much about "professional" instead of "creative".
We are artists, and openSUSE is a community distribution. see what Ubuntu did these years:
izteglimi.com/data/1920x1200/ubuntu-linux-wallpapers.png http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Cacomixtle-Ubunte%C3%B...
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Natty-Wallpaper-Auberg...
Don't you think it means a lot for us to catch up?
There's a saying goes here in my local community:
How newbies judge a distribution? 99% of them just see its wallpaper.
Do you really think this:
http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/42060848
is far bettter than:
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/64528207135712469/ http://www.deviantart.com/art/openSuSE-13-1-452611334 http://www.deviantart.com/art/openSuSE-13-2-452856961
I do seriously think this time we should bring "something" because we are not that urgent than before.
Marguerite
My impression is that the images that we have presented so far do lack complexity. That is across all the ones that we have presented so far. Complexity in an image means that the artist has used his/her craft to present higher level of graphic work into a simple and understandable rendition.
I think maybe that we are a little caught up by the idea that a nice gradient will do the job of designing more concrete elements. I think we should push ourselves into making something a little more out of the box and something that requires more time. I get the impression that our work so far is something we can produce in a day and don't touch again. An artist takes time with their productions, works on it until it provides a sense of completeness.
Maybe we should all take a second look at the work we have done so far and work on modifying and making the designs stronger.
On the subject of differentiation from other Linux distributions, I am not sure that we are being original enough or that we actually need to be more original than we are now. I say this because design is something that goes beyond color. While we can have a similar palette for what Chakra and Mint are, the real deal-breaker for me is that we use the same icons, same themes, same fonts, etc. We take things vanilla and we put in a pinch of color that happens to match other distros.
However, what I am implying here goes beyond what most designers can do, that is to develop and produce code that will change the looks on the distribution and that, I don't know that we can actually execute. So it may sound conformist, but until we have a programmer that has a focus on design, we might have to settle to only changing colors and wallpapers on the distribution.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Andres Silva
wrote: Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi,
I modified default oxygen inode-directory.svgz to match the colorscheme Ken pasted in the other thread, talk is cheap:
http://paste.opensuse.org/56589464
source: https://github.com/marguerite/openSUSE-zh-artwork/blob/master/others/folder-...
so any suggestions?
Marguerite
I love how the icons are done. I believe it looks great. What I think needs help is the color scheme of the file manager window hehe. I would lighten that up.
Something along these lines.
https://kuler.adobe.com/Green-Worm-Hole-color-theme-108483/
-- Andy (anditosan) anditosan.com
Marguerite Su mailto:i@marguerite.su June 29, 2014 at 2:57 PM Hi,
I modified default oxygen inode-directory.svgz to match the colorscheme Ken pasted in the other thread, talk is cheap:
http://paste.opensuse.org/56589464
source: https://github.com/marguerite/openSUSE-zh-artwork/blob/master/others/folder-...
so any suggestions?
Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 02 July 2014 11.21:49 Eugene Trounev wrote:
I came across this email, thread and I would like to add my 2cents. I think you need to make sure you are leveraging the historical heritage of OpenSUSE correctly, while keeping in mind that future maintainability of the project is the main goal here. If I was to make a proposal (which I'm not. this is just a suggestion) I would go in a direction already existing in suse community and do something like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uoe15yu9dxnid5s/sampleIconSUSE.png
a) it's simple as it only involves straight shapes b) it's original as it features circular design which (eve though suse used it for ages, is not so common on other desktops) c) easy to maintain as anyone can make an icon in this style (provided a template and a simple set of how-tos to follow)
Keep in mid - this is just a suggestion, nothing more.
Regards,
Eugene
As usual, especially a good one ;-) -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Board GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot ~~~Don't take Life too serious. Nobody gets out alive anyway!~~~ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On Wednesday 02 July 2014 11.21:49 Eugene Trounev wrote:
I came across this email, thread and I would like to add my 2cents. I think you need to make sure you are leveraging the historical heritage of OpenSUSE correctly, while keeping in mind that future maintainability of the project is the main goal here. If I was to make a proposal (which I'm not. this is just a suggestion) I would go in a direction already existing in suse community and do something like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uoe15yu9dxnid5s/sampleIconSUSE.png
a) it's simple as it only involves straight shapes b) it's original as it features circular design which (eve though suse used it for ages, is not so common on other desktops) c) easy to maintain as anyone can make an icon in this style (provided a template and a simple set of how-tos to follow)
Keep in mid - this is just a suggestion, nothing more.
Regards,
Eugene
As usual, especially a good one ;-)
I wanted to build on what Victor has been working on. I added a modification to the geeko tail and also the colors. I wanted it to have a subtle pop and not distract the user from the main object, which is to manipulate the directory. I also modified the tail to be included inside the folder image rather than outside. Mostly because of the increasing work being done on KDE where you overlay extra icons to select or delete. http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/anditosan/Folder_Idea_zpsb3f1ff55.p... I hope it furthers the conversation on icons. -- Andy (anditosan) anditosan.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 25 July 2014 11.50:56 Andres Silva wrote:
Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On Wednesday 02 July 2014 11.21:49 Eugene Trounev wrote:
I came across this email, thread and I would like to add my 2cents. I think you need to make sure you are leveraging the historical heritage of OpenSUSE correctly, while keeping in mind that future maintainability of the project is the main goal here. If I was to make a proposal (which I'm not. this is just a suggestion) I would go in a direction already existing in suse community and do something like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uoe15yu9dxnid5s/sampleIconSUSE.png
a) it's simple as it only involves straight shapes b) it's original as it features circular design which (eve though suse used it for ages, is not so common on other desktops) c) easy to maintain as anyone can make an icon in this style (provided a template and a simple set of how-tos to follow)
Keep in mid - this is just a suggestion, nothing more.
Regards,
Eugene
As usual, especially a good one ;-)
I wanted to build on what Victor has been working on. I added a modification to the geeko tail and also the colors. I wanted it to have a subtle pop and not distract the user from the main object, which is to manipulate the directory. I also modified the tail to be included inside the folder image rather than outside. Mostly because of the increasing work being done on KDE where you overlay extra icons to select or delete.
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/anditosan/Folder_Idea_zpsb3f1ff55.p...
I hope it furthers the conversation on icons.
Very nice ... It's the beginning of a good series. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Board GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot ~~~Don't take Life too serious. Nobody gets out alive anyway!~~~ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
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I wanted to build on what Victor has been working on. I added a modification to the geeko tail and also the colors. I wanted it to have a subtle pop and not distract the user from the main object, which is to manipulate the directory. I also modified the tail to be included inside the folder image rather than outside. Mostly because of the increasing work being done on KDE where you overlay extra icons to select or delete.
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/anditosan/Folder_Idea_zpsb3f1ff55.p...
I hope it furthers the conversation on icons.
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