Re: [opensuse-artwork] General Meeting
Hi All
We first should agree on a timeline.
The release schedule for 12.2 is not set yet. What I mean is to find a general timeline that fits on every release, e.g. deadline for submissions is Milestone 1, Final artwork has to be packaged till Milestone 3.
Even without a fixed timeline, I'd like our work on 12.2 to be far less rushed than we did 12.1. Having meetings and discussions like this is just the sort of thing we need to get the ball rolling Once we've had a meeting I think a good next step would be to start taking concepts and initial submissions. (Do we have a date yet, I think I may have missed it in this thread?) I don't think we should be limiting ourselves with artificially defined concepts and concerns about colours Lets see what our contributors can submit and from there hopefully discussions about colour and a shared concept for various artwork would hopefully take shape
- Who can vote?
When it comes to voting on submissions, concepts, or even colours, I have the following opinion I see the artwork team as being here to provide artwork for the openSUSE project and its community I feel we can decide a great deal of things among ourselves, and we have knowledge, skills and expertise that might lead us in a certain direction with the artwork we would like to see in the distribution (vector vs raster, any other colour vs green) But at the end of the day, we cannot act, nor be seen to act, like beings in some grand ivory tower Fundamentally, for our artwork to be 'successful', it must at the very least be accepted by the community, and to be a true success our chosen artwork must be accepted by 'the wider world', and be an eyecatching draw to grab another non-openSUSE user and encourage them to try our distribution. So I have no objection to us deciding much as a team, with group consensus, internal votes when no consensus is obvious, but any controversial decisions (such as a move from green) should have at least an openSUSE membership wide vote, and personally I'd prefer an open vote. We may have good reason to second guess the results of such a vote, and as a group we may reserve the right (with lots of public explanation why) to go with something different, but we really must seek a wider opinion than just our small group and be seeing to consider and have our work shaped by that opinion. We also cant forget that our artwork is going to have a great impact on some very specific teams, such as marketing, and I'd like to see this 12.2 round as an opportunity to improve collaboration between both groups. At the very least, the marketing team have a number of keen minds who could be a perfect 'focus group' to help us consider issues before bringing them to the wider community. Anyhow, back to the point of this thead - when are we having a meeting? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:04:21 PM Richard Brown wrote:
Anyhow, back to the point of this thead - when are we having a meeting?
As you did not missed, we just have discussion about 12.2 :) ---------------------------------------------------------------- I was always against IRC meetings as they have 3 big disadvantages that email doesn't: 1) Timezones are impossible to overcome in geographicaly dispersed community. 2) Good typists take over discussion without giving a chance slower to say much more then yes or not. 3) There is no time to think about solutions. IRC has advantages for some tasks, but meetings that supose to plan strategy are not in that category. The only advantage of IRC that is possible to overcome in emails is that they supress verbosity. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
Hi all.
Anyhow, back to the point of this thead - when are we having a meeting?
As you did not missed, we just have discussion about 12.2 :)
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I was always against IRC meetings as they have 3 big disadvantages that email doesn't: 1) Timezones are impossible to overcome in geographicaly dispersed community. 2) Good typists take over discussion without giving a chance slower to say much more then yes or not. 3) There is no time to think about solutions.
IRC has advantages for some tasks, but meetings that supose to plan strategy are not in that category.
The only advantage of IRC that is possible to overcome in emails is that they supress verbosity.
I also think this could all be discussed on the ML. Greets Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org
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Marcus Moeller
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Rajko M.
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Richard Brown