On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:25:53 -0700 "DuBois, Scott L." <ranger@roguehorse.com> wrote: ...
Original idea was that volunteers, that look anyway for good photography and graphics, post links to their findings, but it was fast expanded to comments, actual links to photos, then it was added legal text, instructions, requirements that it must and page become not that usable.
I agree this page could use some restructuring. Maybe if we create an outline of what "should" be in there vs what "is" there we could clean it up a bit. Remember, it has taken a while for all these pages to take shape to the point that they are now. It will take some time to clean them up as well, just hopefully not as long.
If no one objects it will be fixed as outlined below. (This is new method I will practicing: Announce change, wait, no comments or objections, do it.) ...
For now I'm sure that: * Wallpaper_graphics_(proposals) must be exactly what name tells. Few images that are proposed for the next release. * Legal requirements, instructions for collectors and jury must be linked, but they must go on a separate pages.
Agreed, should we remove this page http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Wallpapers_12.2 for Wallpaper_graphics_(proposals) then? Based on your description they are kind of covering the same thing.
I would keep openSUSE:Wallpapers_12.2 and any other "Wallpapers" page with version encoded in a title. Actually here: https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1aFpqeqWfl_hcpdEVUBKYd3No7aDi1ifmlaWUnNT5... you can see draft idea of a workflow. Phase I Collection of ideas and discussion. Phase II Announce default and packaged images at "openSUSE:Wallpaper_(default)". Next is create permanent page with release number encoded in a title. Current - will be always http://en.opensuse.org/Wallpapers created as transclusion of page with version in the name, plus references to older pages. Transclusion is what happens when one includes template in a another page. The same is possible with any ordinary page, "Template" namespace is to keep this pages out of wiki default search engine scope. Expression: {{openSUSE:Wallpapers_12.2}} will include whole page right on that place. You can have content before and after, which allows to add links to other wallpaper pages. "Some stuff before, like general intro that is valid for every release." {{openSUSE:Wallpapers_12.2}} "Some stuff after, like links to other collections, closing comments etc." Not to forget, above is first draft, and as you know it will need quite a few iterations to become model :)
I'm still not giving up on a idea to have page with links to web pages of good photographers, ....
I understand the point being made here, but it seems obscure ... like kind of a bummer.
It is not a bummer. It is the Internet activity pyramid which is similar to social pyramids. Out of huge number of users there is just a fraction that will ever post anything, even smaller is number of permanently active people, and very few are pillars of community. We include whole a lot of software that is not created in house, and whatever is created in house is exposed the same criteria as external development, where better solution wins. Photography and other digital art should have same treatment. If in house creation can compete with external resources and win, better for us, but having protective zone that impede competition will not help. Going out and inviting people can only help. Out of many some will stay and actually contribute (pyramid :). -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org