After some digging on the flyer, I found some things to make better (as content) - for example the user part speaks too much of video and do not speak about photo, when we are pretty week on video and great on photos :-( the artwork is extremely sofisticated. Great work, indeed! But I fear it do not fit our needs now. In fact it's too much sticked to the 11.4 artwork/background, so tight that it's bearly as difficult to make it more all purpose than to make directly an other one. I really think we should go the other way round: begin with a content (we nearly have it, with minor edits), then make a very simple document to be printed black and white on cheap printer. For example, never use part of the text white and part black! one of them will desapear too easily :-) then go on and make a one for color paper (may be the same one?). Make one for color print on white paper with cheap printer (color printing on color paper is way too difficult) then make a professional one to be printed on professional color printer, still all purpose (no specific distro version) and then only, if we have the budget, make one distro-specific This should make the total work lesser (make house with bricks) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org