* Nenad Latinović <nenad@latinovic.info> [2014-07-01 09:35]:
Hey guys, I've tried modding the greybird theme for Xfce. I'd appreciate it if someone would try it out (try it with Faenza-Mint icons) and see how it looks on your Xfce machine. It would actually be a very small to uniforming the look (approximately) across DE's.
Here's the link: https://ssl.eumx.net/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=cfcdd6ebd343286f416212a738a72ce8
I'd appreciate some feedback.
IMHO it looks mostly OK but lacks distinction from Mint Xfce/Xubuntu, see e.g. http://www.linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/nadia/xfce_software.png The color palette used for openSUSE branding has also changed recently, see http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-artwork/2014-06/msg00074.html I think the Faenza icon theme does not integrate well with unthemed icons and is very poor usability-wise because the icons have no distinct shapes and are all square . I'd strongly suggest a default theme that at least roughly follows the Tango guidelines. * Nenad Latinović <nenad@latinovic.info> [2014-06-30 17:48]:
Hey guys. Just recently I've started my Xfce adventure. What I want to know is if anyone is doing some beautifying of the default Xfce experience maybe?
No, not that I'm aware of, I'm currently the only one maintaining the current theme/branding/look-n-feel. If you and others would like to look into improving the GTK looks it is ceratainly appreciated.
And, how would it go if we make a mod of an existing gtk theme (f.ex. Greybird, or Zukitwo...)as a default openSUSE theme? Is that doable, or are there some other restrictions?
It is doable, the main restriction is the available manpower to maintain it (and the reason why Xfce and (as I understand it) GNOME stick to Adwaita). More specifically, GTK theming is a bit difficult for two reasons. Firstly, we need a theme that is consistent across GTK 2 (Xfce applications and major desktop-independent applications like Gimp, Firefox, etc.) and 3 (GNOME) and secondly GTK 3 has no stable API for theme authors, that is it leaks internal implementation details into the CSS API and these implementation details change between minor releases with basically no documentation. So a GTK 3 theme requires an ongoing maintenance effort and I am actually not aware of any combined GTK 2/3 theme besides the official Adwaita and Greybird with a track record of solid maintenance. Unfortunately, most themes seem to pop up for one or two GTK 3 versions and are then abandoned by its authors, e.g. the Sonar port to GTK3 or Clearlooks Phenix. This is in no way meant to discourage you or anyone else, you just need to be aware of that it is not a one-time change but requires an ongoing effort to keep up as our GTK3 packages get updated. I'd also like to hear what the GNOME team thinks about openSUSE, I think having a common openSUSE GTK theming/branding would be desirable. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org