Hi, guys, I think you worried too much...Zvezdana and Ken used that chameleon to express the color idea instead of the logo. If you search on Google Image, you will know that chameleon exists long before we use it. It's not just "funny" that we can't use it as a logo, but not "legally" possible maybe. So I think it might be cultural difference hereby that drives this thread. They used a second language to express their ideas while we watched in a second language too. It might be helpful if they release their slideshow. That's exactly why GNOME Asia always release their slides... And to Raymond: personally I agree to remove the text, because it's useless... 1. most newbies just don't know how to pronounce it and how to correctly write it. eg: In my area, no one knows "SUSE" actually pronounces like "SUZA" in the first place. and they always write "OpenSUSE" or "Open SUSE" just because wikipedia can't make the first letter uppercase and the SUSE company. 2. due to 1, most newbies in my area just call openSUSE in a different way, based on the image they get from our logo. eg: "Big Chameleon", "Green Chameleon" are the most common cases. 3. Who really care "Fifthleg" or "OpenSans"? they just read...so I think it has very little influence unless you changed it into emoji :-) Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org