[opensuse-arm] arm board recommendation?
Hi, I'm looking for a small inexpensive ARM board that has a few digital inputs (for buttons/switches) and a few digital outputs (for LEDs). Fast USB 2.0 or even 3.0 ports would be good to have too. It's meant to be headless, so gfx doesn't matter. It should obviously run openSUSE :-) Are there any recommendations? cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/12/13 10:30, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
I'm looking for a small inexpensive ARM board that has a few digital inputs (for buttons/switches) and a few digital outputs (for LEDs). Fast USB 2.0 or even 3.0 ports would be good to have too. It's meant to be headless, so gfx doesn't matter. It should obviously run openSUSE :-) Are there any recommendations?
Well, I'm very happy with my Raspberry Pi, which ticks the boxes of your first sentence. However, it's pretty slow, especially if running KDE (I assume gnome is little better). It certainly runs openSuSE but not currently from the official repo (see http://zq1.de/~bernhard/linux/opensuse/ though for the best unofficial images). -- Cheers Richard (MQ) Linux user # 439271 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On 09.12.2013, at 11:30, Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@suse.de> wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for a small inexpensive ARM board that has a few digital inputs (for buttons/switches) and a few digital outputs (for LEDs). Fast
It's hard to find ARM development boards that don't have freely configurable GPIO pins that you can use either for in- or for output.
USB 2.0 or even 3.0 ports would be good to have too. It's meant to be headless, so gfx doesn't matter. It should obviously run openSUSE :-) Are there any recommendations?
The only SoC with built-in USB3 and reasonable OpenSUSE support that I'm aware of is the Exynos5. You could try and see whether the Arndale Board or the ODROID-XU good for you: - http://www.arndaleboard.org/ - http://www.hardkernel.com/ Maybe the new CubieBoard has everything you need too, but I don't have any experience with those: - http://cubieboard.org/2013/10/30/cubieboard3-cubietruck-is-all-ready/ If you want even cheaper, go with the Raspberry Pi :). Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
moin,
The only SoC with built-in USB3 and reasonable OpenSUSE support that I'm aware of is the Exynos5. You could try and see whether the Arndale Board or the ODROID-XU good for you:
if you're talking about the pre-built jeos images, the beagleboard should be supported quite well as well. although its also not really cheap, but its easier to order than the odroid or even the arndale. https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:BeagleBoard-xM but the beaglebone is a bit dated (and hence well supported). the odroid-xu and the arndale are _much_ faster. but especially the odroid-xu is pretty bleeding edge (and it seems the specific SoC on the odroid-xu (exynos 5410) has a silicon bug, and theres already an odroid-xu2 announced which will be released soon.) if the jeos-beagle image works on a "beaglebone black" as well, that would probably be option with the best bang per buck ration. it costs about the same as as raspi, but is a lot more powerful. http://www.exp-tech.de/Mainboards/BeagleBone-Black.html i can try if the jeos-beagle image works on there.
Maybe the new CubieBoard has everything you need too, but I don't have any experience with those:
- http://cubieboard.org/2013/10/30/cubieboard3-cubietruck-is-all-ready/
the cubietruck is a nice board, but not very well supported yet (at all) since its pretty new. they're pretty affordable, but the allwinner SoC that all the cubie boards are based on needs a special kernel (linux-sunxi, based on linux 3.4). some initial support for allwinner is in 3.12 mainline linux, but not much works yet (no permanent storage, no graphics, no usb...basicaly you can boot to initrd and thats it..). the linux-sunxi kernel works ok, but since it's not mainline and does not support device tree yet. creating images is not very elegant. (i'm working with an a20-olinuxino-micro at the moment, also based on the allwinner A20 soc). if you don't need all the interfaces the cubietruck has, the cubieboard 2 or the a20-olinuxino-micro are cheaper choices. in all, the allwinner boards are cheap, work in general, but are a bit of a hassle to get to work with opensuse/JeoOS. i'll test the jeos-beagle image on the beaglebone black and get back to you.. oh, and whatever you do, stay away from rk8133 boards..they're horrible ;) tty, axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:48:46 +0100 Axel Theilmann <axel@nomaden.org> wrote:
moin,
The only SoC with built-in USB3 and reasonable OpenSUSE support that I'm aware of is the Exynos5. You could try and see whether the Arndale Board or the ODROID-XU good for you:
if you're talking about the pre-built jeos images, the beagleboard should be supported quite well as well. although its also not really cheap, but its easier to order than the odroid or even the arndale.
https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:BeagleBoard-xM
but the beaglebone is a bit dated (and hence well supported). the odroid-xu and the arndale are _much_ faster. but especially the odroid-xu is pretty bleeding edge (and it seems the specific SoC on the odroid-xu (exynos 5410) has a silicon bug, and theres already an odroid-xu2 announced which will be released soon.)
if the jeos-beagle image works on a "beaglebone black" as well, that would probably be option with the best bang per buck ration. it costs about the same as as raspi, but is a lot more powerful.
http://www.exp-tech.de/Mainboards/BeagleBone-Black.html
i can try if the jeos-beagle image works on there.
Maybe the new CubieBoard has everything you need too, but I don't have any experience with those:
- http://cubieboard.org/2013/10/30/cubieboard3-cubietruck-is-all-ready/
the cubietruck is a nice board, but not very well supported yet (at all) since its pretty new.
they're pretty affordable, but the allwinner SoC that all the cubie boards are based on needs a special kernel (linux-sunxi, based on linux 3.4). some initial support for allwinner is in 3.12 mainline linux, but not much works yet (no permanent storage, no graphics, no usb...basicaly you can boot to initrd and thats it..). the linux-sunxi kernel works ok, but since it's not mainline and does not support device tree yet. creating images is not very elegant. (i'm working with an a20-olinuxino-micro at the moment, also based on the allwinner A20 soc).
if you don't need all the interfaces the cubietruck has, the cubieboard 2 or the a20-olinuxino-micro are cheaper choices.
in all, the allwinner boards are cheap, work in general, but are a bit of a hassle to get to work with opensuse/JeoOS.
i'll test the jeos-beagle image on the beaglebone black and get back to you..
oh, and whatever you do, stay away from rk8133 boards..they're horrible ;)
tty, axel
I was going to bump my post about running opensuse on the Beagle Bone Black, but I guess this thread will do. Note that the Beagle Board XM has an issues with the USB hub chip and it requires a kernel hack. Someone (sorry I forget who on the list but thank that person just the same) made me an image with the hack implemented. At this point the question remains if the usb hub hack made it into the standard distribution. My use is headless, i.e. I don't care about the GPU. What I really want is something that runs opensuse, is dual core, and has 4 usb 2 ports. The Beagleboard XM was OK, but I managed to just hit the CPU limit in one application. And of course I will probably never have a warm and fuzzy feeling about the Beagleboard XM in any remote use since that usb bug is fixed with a software patch rather than something that is correct from the get go. One reason I was looking at the Beagle Bone Black is it is cheap enough that I could get 4 boards for the price of one higher end SBC. As a general comment to this thread, it helps to have a bit more horsepower than you think you need for the final task since you will probably be compiling on the same board. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
moin 2013/12/11 Axel Theilmann <axel@nomaden.org>
moin,
The only SoC with built-in USB3 and reasonable OpenSUSE support that I'm aware of is the Exynos5. You could try and see whether the Arndale Board or the ODROID-XU good for you:
if you're talking about the pre-built jeos images, the beagleboard should be supported quite well as well. although its also not really cheap, but its easier to order than the odroid or even the arndale.
https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:BeagleBoard-xM
but the beaglebone is a bit dated (and hence well supported). the odroid-xu and the arndale are _much_ faster. but especially the odroid-xu is pretty bleeding edge (and it seems the specific SoC on the odroid-xu (exynos 5410) has a silicon bug, and theres already an odroid-xu2 announced which will be released soon.)
if the jeos-beagle image works on a "beaglebone black" as well, that would probably be option with the best bang per buck ration. it costs about the same as as raspi, but is a lot more powerful.
http://www.exp-tech.de/Mainboards/BeagleBone-Black.html
i can try if the jeos-beagle image works on there.
Maybe the new CubieBoard has everything you need too, but I don't have any experience with those:
- http://cubieboard.org/2013/10/30/cubieboard3-cubietruck-is-all-ready/
the cubietruck is a nice board, but not very well supported yet (at all) since its pretty new.
they're pretty affordable, but the allwinner SoC that all the cubie boards are based on needs a special kernel (linux-sunxi, based on linux 3.4). some initial support for allwinner is in 3.12 mainline linux, but not much works yet (no permanent storage, no graphics, no usb...basicaly you can boot to initrd and thats it..).
the gmac is worked in my a20 stb with the lastest linux kernel. there are progresses about usb, sata and mmc in upstream kernel recently. i would expect it will be available soon. considering it support xen/kvm. it is suitable for running a server on ck. BTW, i am working on building opensuse image for it. bamvor
the linux-sunxi kernel works ok, but since it's not mainline and does not support device tree yet. creating images is not very elegant. (i'm working with an a20-olinuxino-micro at the moment, also based on the allwinner A20 soc).
if you don't need all the interfaces the cubietruck has, the cubieboard 2 or the a20-olinuxino-micro are cheaper choices.
in all, the allwinner boards are cheap, work in general, but are a bit of a hassle to get to work with opensuse/JeoOS.
i'll test the jeos-beagle image on the beaglebone black and get back to you..
oh, and whatever you do, stay away from rk8133 boards..they're horrible ;)
tty, axel
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El 2013-12-11 04:18, Bamvor Zhang escribió: Hi!
2013/12/11 Axel Theilmann <axel@nomaden.org>
i can try if the jeos-beagle image works on there.
Maybe the new CubieBoard has everything you need too, but I don't have any experience with those:
- http://cubieboard.org/2013/10/30/cubieboard3-cubietruck-is-all-ready/
the cubietruck is a nice board, but not very well supported yet (at all) since its pretty new.
they're pretty affordable, but the allwinner SoC that all the cubie boards are based on needs a special kernel (linux-sunxi, based on linux 3.4). some initial support for allwinner is in 3.12 mainline linux, but not much works yet (no permanent storage, no graphics, no usb...basicaly you can boot to initrd and thats it..).
the gmac is worked in my a20 stb with the lastest linux kernel. there are progresses about usb, sata and mmc in upstream kernel recently. i would expect it will be available soon. considering it support xen/kvm. it is suitable for running a server on ck.
BTW, i am working on building opensuse image for it.
bamvor
I'm too building an opensuse image for the cubieboard2. Although i'm almost there, it doesn't boot because it seems to be a problem with the boot script. If you want to take a look, I'm building it here: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:ocurero:arm Oscar -- Cheers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
moin,
I'm too building an opensuse image for the cubieboard2. Although i'm almost there, it doesn't boot because it seems to be a problem with the boot script. If you want to take a look, I'm building it here: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:ocurero:arm
i have a working opensuse 13.1 image for Allwinner A20 (sunxi-linux 3.4 kernel, built via kiwi, booting from sd or nand) which i'm using with an A20-Olinuxino-MICRO (but it should work with the cubieboard as well). it's on a private OBS instance, but i can maybe give you some infos if you like.... tty, axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
El 2013-12-12 13:44, Axel Theilmann escribió:
moin,
I'm too building an opensuse image for the cubieboard2. Although i'm almost there, it doesn't boot because it seems to be a problem with the boot script. If you want to take a look, I'm building it here: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:ocurero:arm
i have a working opensuse 13.1 image for Allwinner A20 (sunxi-linux 3.4 kernel, built via kiwi, booting from sd or nand) which i'm using with an A20-Olinuxino-MICRO (but it should work with the cubieboard as well). it's on a private OBS instance, but i can maybe give you some infos if you like....
tty, axel
Yes, please. Any info you could share would be usefull. Oscar -- Cheers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
moin,
Yes, please. Any info you could share would be usefull.
do you have any specific questions or errors to solve? you said your board doesnt boot properly and you suspect the boot scripts. whats the error message there? tty, axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
El 2013-12-13 18:01, Axel Theilmann escribió:
moin, Hi Axel,
Yes, please. Any info you could share would be usefull.
do you have any specific questions or errors to solve?
you said your board doesnt boot properly and you suspect the boot scripts. whats the error message there?
I had a look at u-boot code and the problem is that the kernel image is not valid. Although it's built succesfully, for some reason the image is corrupted. I tried to build a kernel for A20 (sun7i) based on a A10 (sun4i) kernel but I get a ton of errors in the .config file. Could you please share you .spec and .config files to build the kernel-sunxi for sun7i? Thanks in advance! -- Cheers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
moin,
i can try if the jeos-beagle image works on there.
i tried the jeos-beagle image but it didnt work out of the box. u-boot starts but couldn't read the uImage file. it's probably something small & easy to fix...maybe it needs a slightly different u-boot (the u-boot config seemed ok and should've worked, as far as is could see). the beagleboards & beaglebones all have slightly different CPUs... anyway, a good, cheap board with open documentation and good, mature linux support in general
oh, and whatever you do, stay away from rk8133 boards..they're horrible ;)
and that was rk3188, not 8133, but they're still horrible... tty, axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
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