From: Bill Merriam [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [opensuse-arm] timeline?
I too (and others) have wondered about this. The recently approved
openSUSE strategy said, I think, that mobile devices are not a goal for
openSUSE. You and I know that most mobile devices use ARM processors
but there are a few desktop class devices that do also. More ARM
desktop and server devices are expected in the near future.
Ubuntu has announced that they intend to support ARM servers. They are
current testing using Pandaboards.
In the mean time I believe the openSUSE project's response to your
question is "Thank you for volunteering". That have said a port to ARM
is welcome but they can provide only general assistance.
The Linaro foundation has links to development hardware.
Compulab is offering discounts on their Trimslice desktops is you can
convince them you will use it to port an open source project to ARM.
Marvell has a number of development kits available for purchase. Most
of them are ARM5 processors but the not-yet-available D2plug is an ARM7
As you know the OBS can build ARM packages. openSUSE uses kiwi to turn
those packages in to deploy-able images. I don't think it has been
tested on ARM but it is written in PERL and should be easy to port.
So there you go. Talk your employer into buying a few development kits.
Install another distribution on it. Port kiwi to that and try to build
an openSUSE image for it. In days, weeks, months or years you will
have a working openSUSE distribution.
I am sure you win a t-shirt for that :).
Tnx for the reply Bill,
Yeah, I think I can understand their strategy. For the end-user-market, there is little
love to gain employing a full arm-based distro: few people will be willing to play with
their phone this way.
OTOH, seeing the rising popularity of tablets, we are at the starting point of a fast
rising market share.
And for larger organizations/companies, using those ultra-thin clients, could be an answer
to rising maintenance costs for desktops/laptops. I got people who are fed-up with picking
up their laptop from their locker in the morning, and putting them back in the evening. A
cheap (sub $100) thin-client would be ideal:
-all identical configured
-no hardware maintenance : just replace faulty one's
If (...) SuSE could produce a bootable thinclient, it could promote business for their
remote desktops on SLES.
Regarding hardware, I already got a couple of HP's and Athena boxes.
They were given to my team with a note "see what you can do with them".
Indeed I noticed the presence of ARM packages on the OBS, but I've got no idea how
much is already there.
I mean for a thinclient, you need networking (net-boot), simple X-server and remote
desktopclient. (actually I wonder how the builders ever tested their packages.)
As for kiwi, afaicr you can do a cross-build (at least I managed to create a bootable
32-system, created on a 64-bit build environment). But here also: I can not determine if
everything kiwi needs is there.
Perhaps I should ask Andreas Schaeffer on/or the kiwi-list.
Kind regards, Hans
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