Hi, so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday: 10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D -- Michal Hrusecky <Michal@Hrusecky.net> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
Michal Hrusecky - 9:20 16.01.12 wrote:
Hi,
so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday:
10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build
I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D
Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in troubles section) or what I have wrong. Generally any feedback appreciated. [1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8023816/chameleon.pdf [2] http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/iss/110111.aspx -- Michal Hrusecky <Michal@Hrusecky.net> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:19:43 +0100 Michal Hrusecky <michal@hrusecky.net> wrote:
Michal Hrusecky - 9:20 16.01.12 wrote:
Hi,
so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday:
10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build
I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D
Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in troubles section) or what I have wrong.
Generally any feedback appreciated.
[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8023816/chameleon.pdf [2] http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/iss/110111.aspx
You might want to suggest that anybody who wants good support for their favorite hardware should donate some of it to the the project. Bill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
Bill Merriam - 11:30 24.01.12 wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:19:43 +0100 Michal Hrusecky <michal@hrusecky.net> wrote:
Michal Hrusecky - 9:20 16.01.12 wrote:
Hi,
so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday:
10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build
I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D
Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in troubles section) or what I have wrong.
Generally any feedback appreciated.
[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8023816/chameleon.pdf [2] http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/iss/110111.aspx
You might want to suggest that anybody who wants good support for their favorite hardware should donate some of it to the the project.
:-D Will do :-D -- Michal Hrusecky <Michal@Hrusecky.net>
On 01/24/2012 11:19 AM, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
Hi,
so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday:
10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build
I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in
Michal Hrusecky - 9:20 16.01.12 wrote: troubles section) or what I have wrong.
11: armv5te is the thumb enabled variant. We don't do te, but el, which is w/o thumb IIUC. 12: We never used cross compilation. Bootstrapping was done using meego packages. "hidden behind the walls" needs to have the reasoning on there too. It's because of security concerns. 13: Got exampes for softfp blobs? So far the only gpu we tried to get running was the imx51 one and that was available as hardfloat i think. 14: more _than_ General: You're missing a slide on kiwi Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
Alexander Graf - 11:43 25.01.12 wrote:
On 01/24/2012 11:19 AM, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
Hi,
so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday:
10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build
I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in
Michal Hrusecky - 9:20 16.01.12 wrote: troubles section) or what I have wrong.
11:
armv5te is the thumb enabled variant. We don't do te, but el, which is w/o thumb IIUC.
Ok, will take that line out, used arch from gcc -v you showed me :-D But as it doesn't say anything more, I'll just leave it out.
12:
We never used cross compilation. Bootstrapping was done using meego packages. "hidden behind the walls" needs to have the reasoning on there too. It's because of security concerns.
Ok, I remembered that there were cross packages in GSoC, haven't realize that this time it was bootstrapped differently. Never really understood the security reasons, but will put it in there.
13:
Got exampes for softfp blobs? So far the only gpu we tried to get running was the imx51 one and that was available as hardfloat i think.
I thought that was the state regarding PowerVR drivers in Panda, at least that's what I got from discussions.
14:
more _than_
General:
You're missing a slide on kiwi
hmmm, will try to came up with something about kiwi, never used it myself. Will go through the mailing list... Many thanks for the feedback and for correcting me! -- Michal Hrusecky <Michal@Hrusecky.net>
On 01/25/2012 01:35 PM, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
Alexander Graf - 11:43 25.01.12 wrote:
On 01/24/2012 11:19 AM, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
Hi,
so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday:
10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build
I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in
Michal Hrusecky - 9:20 16.01.12 wrote: troubles section) or what I have wrong. 11:
armv5te is the thumb enabled variant. We don't do te, but el, which is w/o thumb IIUC. Ok, will take that line out, used arch from gcc -v you showed me :-D But as it doesn't say anything more, I'll just leave it out.
Well, maybe we're naming it wrong. I wouldn't be surprised. So far nobody has been really actively working on v5. Everyone's complaining and wants it for their devices, but actual work on that target is minimal. You know how that goes :). Complaining is easier than actual work.
12:
We never used cross compilation. Bootstrapping was done using meego packages. "hidden behind the walls" needs to have the reasoning on there too. It's because of security concerns. Ok, I remembered that there were cross packages in GSoC, haven't realize that this time it was bootstrapped differently. Never really understood the security reasons, but will put it in there.
We're running code from unknown people and chroot is by definition insecure. So we need a VM :).
13:
Got exampes for softfp blobs? So far the only gpu we tried to get running was the imx51 one and that was available as hardfloat i think. I thought that was the state regarding PowerVR drivers in Panda, at least that's what I got from discussions.
Maybe, yeah. On Panda I don't get gfx at all atm. Not even a frame buffer.
14:
more _than_
General:
You're missing a slide on kiwi hmmm, will try to came up with something about kiwi, never used it myself. Will go through the mailing list...
I'm pretty sure Marcus would love to help you out there :) Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
Hi,
You're missing a slide on kiwi hmmm, will try to came up with something about kiwi, never used it myself. Will go through the mailing list...
I'm pretty sure Marcus would love to help you out there :)
yep I'm pleased to offer a helping hand :) what is needed here ? maybe I can provide a slide from one of my former talks about kiwi. There is nothing about building images with kiwi for arm so far... no talks held because that's brandnew stuff. Regards, Marcus -- Public Key available gpg --keyserver gpg-keyserver.de --recv-keys 0xCCE3C6A2 ------------------------------------------------------- Marcus Schäfer (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstrasse 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer HRB: 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Germany http://www.suse.de ------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
Marcus Schäfer - 14:46 25.01.12 wrote:
Hi,
You're missing a slide on kiwi hmmm, will try to came up with something about kiwi, never used it myself. Will go through the mailing list...
I'm pretty sure Marcus would love to help you out there :)
yep I'm pleased to offer a helping hand :)
what is needed here ? maybe I can provide a slide from one of my former talks about kiwi. There is nothing about building images with kiwi for arm so far... no talks held because that's brandnew stuff.
Well, I have some general idea what is kiwi good for, I can speak a little bit about that (will read something up), anything you thing would be good to stress regarding the ARM? I'm open to any suggestions. -- Michal Hrusecky <Michal@Hrusecky.net>
Hi,
Well, I have some general idea what is kiwi good for,
It's an image builder not more and it can build the system for your arm box. So far it can easily build a self expandable oem disk image for the panda and efika boards. Speaking in terms of commands it would look like this: kiwi --build suse-SLE12-JeOS -d /tmp/myimage --type oem dd if=/tmp/mytest/LimeJeOS-SLE12.armv7l-1.12.1.raw of=/dev/<flash-disk> plug in <flash-disk> on panda board and boot * on first boot it resizes the ptable and filesystems to the real size of the flash. * a JeOS means Just enough Operating System so you get a small console based os and can install additional software as you like. The default openSUSE Factory::ARM repo is added there
I can speak a little bit about that (will read something up), anything you thing would be good to stress regarding the ARM? I'm open to any suggestions.
I think especially for arm it's nice to have images at hand you can just dump on the storage device like Ubuntu and others already do these days. with kiwi it's easy for the people to create those images themselves according to their needs. I think that makes it a nice tool for arm boxes Regards, Marcus -- Public Key available gpg --keyserver gpg-keyserver.de --recv-keys 0xCCE3C6A2 ------------------------------------------------------- Marcus Schäfer (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstrasse 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer HRB: 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Germany http://www.suse.de ------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 11:19 +0100, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
Michal Hrusecky - 9:20 16.01.12 wrote:
Hi,
so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday:
10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build
I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D
Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in troubles section) or what I have wrong.
Generally any feedback appreciated.
[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8023816/chameleon.pdf [2] http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/iss/110111.aspx
-- Michal Hrusecky <Michal@Hrusecky.net>
We now also have a kernel for the u8500, and I'm just testing the kernel for the exynos4. It is also probably worth making a statement that this is a community effort and not driven by the corporate paymasters (yet). You might want to rework the slides a bit so you don't have so much text in each slide. Have the info in notes, and only have header style items in the slides. Too much text makes people switch off and loose interest, having somewhat amusing but relevant images would help. -- Andrew Wafaa IRC: FunkyPenguin GPG: 0x3A36312F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
Michal Hrusecky - 11:19 24.01.12 wrote:
Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in troubles section) or what I have wrong.
Generally any feedback appreciated.
Draft updated[1]. Added some more images, corrected some things and added slide about kiwi. I think maybe later I'll leave even more text out. Source is on github[2]. [1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8023816/chameleon.pdf [2] https://github.com/miska/my-opensuse-presentations -- Michal Hrusecky <Michal@Hrusecky.net>
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