On Mon 10 Jun 2013 06:50:18 NZST +1200, Andreas Färber wrote:

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To install applications and other software in openSUSE Factory for Raspberry Pi, can I use the repository: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory:/ARM/standard/

No, the Raspberry Pi is ARMv6, so you'll need to use this one: http://download.opensuse.org/ports/armv5tel/factory/repo/oss/suse/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi Broadcom BCM2835, ARM11 = ARMv6. Essentially all performance ARM boards have an ARMv7, which is why it was so difficult to get a Linux distro for the RPi because all of the vendors were only geared for ARMv7. Could someone please explain why an ARMv5 (armv5tel) repo is needed for the RPi's ARMv6? I can go to the RPi download page, select from half a dozen distros, download raspbian, have that running in under 10 seconds and get on with my favourite electronics projects. With openSUSE, the discussion of just what needs to be downloaded takes a week. That's simply not competitive. Why does the question arise in the first place? If I type opensuse.org into my browser, there's no link anywhere to the ARM version on the getit, derivatives or download areas. Why? After dozens of clicks (normally I don't spend that long on any site to find what I want) There's a link under the top heading "Development" to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:ARM And that doesn't mention anything RPi. It was not competent but excusable to announce that the openSUSE ARM release works on RPi, not excusable is that that isn't easily clarified on the wiki. The RPi is by far the most popular ARM fiddle thing and there isn't even a page for it linking to the current state of the work. Searching for raspberry gives nothing. Yes I know the wiki can be edited by everyone, but I'm not going to set up the RPi page because I don't have the information either. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org

Le 10/06/2013 10:58, Guillaume Gardet a écrit :

Le 09/06/2013 23:59, Volker Kuhlmann a écrit :

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On Mon 10 Jun 2013 06:50:18 NZST +1200, Andreas Färber wrote:

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To install applications and other software in openSUSE Factory for Raspberry Pi, can I use the repository: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory:/ARM/standard/ No, the Raspberry Pi is ARMv6, so you'll need to use this one: http://download.opensuse.org/ports/armv5tel/factory/repo/oss/suse/

indeed, the layout has changed and openSUSE:/Factory:/ARM/standard/ is now armv7 only.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

Broadcom BCM2835, ARM11 = ARMv6. Essentially all performance ARM boards have an ARMv7, which is why it was so difficult to get a Linux distro for the RPi because all of the vendors were only geared for ARMv7.

Could someone please explain why an ARMv5 (armv5tel) repo is needed for the RPi's ARMv6?

openSUSE has no armv6 repo and ARM CPU are backwards compatibles. I mean, you can run binaries compiled for armv5 on armv5, armv6 and armv7 CPU. But you can run armv7 binaries on armv6 or armv5.

you *cannot* run armv7 binaries on armv6 or armv5.

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I can go to the RPi download page, select from half a dozen distros, download raspbian, have that running in under 10 seconds and get on with my favourite electronics projects. With openSUSE, the discussion of just what needs to be downloaded takes a week. That's simply not competitive. Why does the question arise in the first place? If I type opensuse.org into my browser, there's no link anywhere to the ARM version on the getit, derivatives or download areas. Why? After dozens of clicks (normally I don't spend that long on any site to find what I want) There's a link under the top heading "Development" to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:ARM And that doesn't mention anything RPi. It was not competent but excusable to announce that the openSUSE ARM release works on RPi, not excusable is that that isn't easily clarified on the wiki. The RPi is by far the most popular ARM fiddle thing and there isn't even a page for it linking to the current state of the work. Searching for raspberry gives nothing. Yes I know the wiki can be edited by everyone, but I'm not going to set up the RPi page because I don't have the information either.

The main reason is openSUSE support for RPi is not "official" and is not yet fully part of openSUSE project. Though, it is on the way.

Guillaume

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Volker

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Freek de Kruijf wrote:

On zondag 9 juni 2013 20:50:18 wrote Andreas Färber:

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Hi,

Am 08.06.2013 23:12, schrieb Freek de Kruijf:

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To install applications and other software in openSUSE Factory for Raspberry Pi, can I use the repository: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory:/ARM/standard/

No, the Raspberry Pi is ARMv6, so you'll need to use this one: http://download.opensuse.org/ports/armv5tel/factory/repo/oss/suse/

Just found out that this is already a repository in the list of repositories used by zypper in the image. You just can use "zypper install" to install all the applications you need in the openSUSE system on your RPi.

Yes, but you won't get any (security) updates released after Feb-2013. Ciao, Michael.

On woensdag 12 juni 2013 12:08:50 wrote Andreas Schwab:

Freek de Kruijf writes:

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Because I use the RPi headless I get the ncurses interface.

YaST works quite well with ssh X forwarding.

Andreas.

What is the recipe to do that? I will document it in the wiki. -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org

Or the more user friendly reply: ssh -X gets you X11 forwarding :). Alex On 12.06.2013, at 15:19, Andreas Schwab wrote:

See ssh(1).

Andreas.

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