I have to say as someone who is new to opensuse-arm but a long time user/admin of opensuse that the -arm channels seem a bit chaotic and hostile and totally void of useful info and what it sounds like is being promoted to me is that if you can't figure it out on your own, do not bother asking, opensuse community in general has been great, but what is being promoted here seems like the opposite of community. As an outside observer I kind of feel like I am completely on my own if I expect my Raspberry Pi to work, I am still hopeful that things improve soon. I just don't have the time myself to dig into compiling kernels and debugging things using serial tty, I do however think that opensuse community is missing out on a good oportunity to introduce a new generation of young people to opensuse via the Raspberry Pi and other cheap arm hardware, I have now purchased a 4th raspberry pi just to only run opensuse, since I can't really use it for anything serious I have to keep all of my other hardware running on either raspbian or ubuntu at this point, I will keep an eye on opensuse development, but at this point I feel like a complete outsider who is not really welcome because I ask too many questions. Thanks to everyone who has tried to help, unfortunately after a year or so of trying to get opensuse working on my Pi, I am no further along than I was a year ago. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org