I was just wondering if anybody had some luck installing gnome 2.8 with granome? Anybody would like to share their experience? ;) -- - Miguel radioact1ve@gmail.com http://radioact1ve.blogspot.com/ -- EVERYONE MUST SEE FAHRENHEIT 911 ----
Hi, I have not had time to try Gnome 2.8 on any of our AMD64 machines yet, but will do so asap.I would be happy to help if there are any problems, but please move this discussion to the garnome mailinglist where it belongs. /Daniel radioact1ve said:
I was just wondering if anybody had some luck installing gnome 2.8 with granome? Anybody would like to share their experience? ;)
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I've just installed garnome 2.8 into suse 9.1 amd I have a custom kernel from kernel.org... you will need to grab a 1.8 mozilla release and compile yourself... you will also need a couple of other external librarys... Working good now tho.. =-) On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 20:23 +0200, Daniel Persson wrote:
Hi,
I have not had time to try Gnome 2.8 on any of our AMD64 machines yet, but will do so asap.I would be happy to help if there are any problems, but please move this discussion to the garnome mailinglist where it belongs.
/Daniel
radioact1ve said:
I was just wondering if anybody had some luck installing gnome 2.8 with granome? Anybody would like to share their experience? ;)
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-- Joel Wiramu Pauling <aenertia@aenertia.net>
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:06:24 +1200, Joel Wiramu Pauling <aenertia@aenertia.net> wrote:
I've just installed garnome 2.8 into suse 9.1 amd
how?! Did you use garnome or solo? You must tell me please! :)
I have a custom kernel from kernel.org...
I was looking at kernel.org and I couldn't find a kernel for AMD64. How does this work? Is there a special kernel that takes advantage of 64bits or does the normal kernel do it automatically?
you will need to grab a 1.8 mozilla release and compile yourself... you will also need a couple of other external librarys...
I need to compile mozilla to get gnome working? Sorry that seems a little fuzzy to me. Keep in mind that I have never installed gnome by source b4 and I dont know. :) One question to who ever knows ;). When I try compile any programs, ld looks for lib files in /usr/llib. which is fine but most of the lib files on my system is on /usr/lib64. Is there any way I can tell ld to search lib64 as well as /usr/lib? Thanks for your help! -- - Miguel radioact1ve@gmail.com http://radioact1ve.blogspot.com/ -- EVERYONE MUST SEE FAHRENHEIT 911 ----
1.. Kernel.org is sources.. YOu need to compile a kernel from source. Read the kernel source readme file on how to do this or do a google search it's actually pretty easy. 2. Yes mozilla is required, garnome includes a bootstrap/mozilla ports tree but the version it tries to build is incompatible with amd64, Use the mozilla configure options from in bootstrap/mozilla (found in the makefile) to compile a 1.8a3 or similar source package from mozilla.org 3. I forgot to mention you will need to recompile Xfree from source and make sure that you pass it -fPIC boot flags. You won't get far with the suse xfree binarys because of this, I took the oportunity to migrate to xorg (www.x.org) and it's a relatively painless issue. Oh also it's a good idea to set -fPIC and -march=k8 flags in the garnome gar.conf.mk file. I did this and it probably saved me alot of headaches. Reason is that epiphany and alot of others gnome progs need mozilla libs to be recent to work. Also mozilla-nss for some reason doesn't install the nss headers by default. These are needed for evolution and a few others... You will need to manually find the nss headers (in a subdir of the moz build) and copy them to the location where the rest of mozilla headers install too (somthing like /usr/lib/mozilla<ver>/include/nss) evolution help compilation will fail... just touch the files it's looking for in the evolution work dir. I think the gnome-session build fails because it can't grab the garnome startup logo off the web, so you need to edit the gnome-session makefile and get rid of references to splashscreen... Oh and the last pain to deal with that I can remeber is gnome-volume- manager will fail.. you need to grab hal dbus and udev from freedesktop.org compile/install system wide and then (hal will fail but it gets far enough to have build the bits we need). Then go into the garnome/bootstrap/ and build the hal version found in there (doing this first will fail it has issues with external deps to do with dbus). Oh I think expat (the xml parser lib) also needs to be installed from a new version. These are the issues and ways of fixing them that I can remember... There are probably minor other minor ones i've forgot but are easy to fix. Good luck... It took me 5 days of comming back to before I nailed it, you will probably want to keep your irc client open on irc.gnome.org in #garnome the people in there are helpful. Good luck once more... you need it... On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 23:47 -0400, radioact1ve wrote:
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:06:24 +1200, Joel Wiramu Pauling <aenertia@aenertia.net> wrote:
I've just installed garnome 2.8 into suse 9.1 amd
how?! Did you use garnome or solo? You must tell me please! :)
I have a custom kernel from kernel.org...
I was looking at kernel.org and I couldn't find a kernel for AMD64. How does this work? Is there a special kernel that takes advantage of 64bits or does the normal kernel do it automatically?
you will need to grab a 1.8 mozilla release and compile yourself... you will also need a couple of other external librarys...
I need to compile mozilla to get gnome working? Sorry that seems a little fuzzy to me. Keep in mind that I have never installed gnome by source b4 and I dont know. :)
One question to who ever knows ;). When I try compile any programs, ld looks for lib files in /usr/llib. which is fine but most of the lib files on my system is on /usr/lib64. Is there any way I can tell ld to search lib64 as well as /usr/lib?
Thanks for your help!
Wow Joel! Thats more info than I could ever ask for. Thanks a bunch for taking time out to write so much. I really thank you and will take your advice. I will read up on everything (especially on xorg) and then finish the whole thing. Hopefully I can do it b/c 2.4 wont do. Thanks again!! On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:51:33 +1200, Joel Wiramu Pauling <aenertia@aenertia.net> wrote:
1.. Kernel.org is sources.. YOu need to compile a kernel from source. Read the kernel source readme file on how to do this or do a google search it's actually pretty easy.
2. Yes mozilla is required, garnome includes a bootstrap/mozilla ports tree but the version it tries to build is incompatible with amd64, Use the mozilla configure options from in bootstrap/mozilla (found in the makefile) to compile a 1.8a3 or similar source package from mozilla.org
3. I forgot to mention you will need to recompile Xfree from source and make sure that you pass it -fPIC boot flags. You won't get far with the suse xfree binarys because of this, I took the oportunity to migrate to xorg (www.x.org) and it's a relatively painless issue.
Oh also it's a good idea to set -fPIC and -march=k8 flags in the garnome gar.conf.mk file. I did this and it probably saved me alot of headaches.
Reason is that epiphany and alot of others gnome progs need mozilla libs to be recent to work.
Also mozilla-nss for some reason doesn't install the nss headers by default. These are needed for evolution and a few others... You will need to manually find the nss headers (in a subdir of the moz build) and copy them to the location where the rest of mozilla headers install too (somthing like /usr/lib/mozilla<ver>/include/nss)
evolution help compilation will fail... just touch the files it's looking for in the evolution work dir.
I think the gnome-session build fails because it can't grab the garnome startup logo off the web, so you need to edit the gnome-session makefile and get rid of references to splashscreen...
Oh and the last pain to deal with that I can remeber is gnome-volume- manager will fail.. you need to grab hal dbus and udev from freedesktop.org compile/install system wide and then (hal will fail but it gets far enough to have build the bits we need). Then go into the garnome/bootstrap/ and build the hal version found in there (doing this first will fail it has issues with external deps to do with dbus).
Oh I think expat (the xml parser lib) also needs to be installed from a new version.
These are the issues and ways of fixing them that I can remember... There are probably minor other minor ones i've forgot but are easy to fix.
Good luck...
It took me 5 days of comming back to before I nailed it, you will probably want to keep your irc client open on irc.gnome.org in #garnome the people in there are helpful.
Good luck once more... you need it...
On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 23:47 -0400, radioact1ve wrote:
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:06:24 +1200, Joel Wiramu Pauling <aenertia@aenertia.net> wrote:
I've just installed garnome 2.8 into suse 9.1 amd
how?! Did you use garnome or solo? You must tell me please! :)
I have a custom kernel from kernel.org...
I was looking at kernel.org and I couldn't find a kernel for AMD64. How does this work? Is there a special kernel that takes advantage of 64bits or does the normal kernel do it automatically?
you will need to grab a 1.8 mozilla release and compile yourself... you will also need a couple of other external librarys...
I need to compile mozilla to get gnome working? Sorry that seems a little fuzzy to me. Keep in mind that I have never installed gnome by source b4 and I dont know. :)
One question to who ever knows ;). When I try compile any programs, ld looks for lib files in /usr/llib. which is fine but most of the lib files on my system is on /usr/lib64. Is there any way I can tell ld to search lib64 as well as /usr/lib?
Thanks for your help!
-- - Miguel radioact1ve@gmail.com http://radioact1ve.blogspot.com/ -- EVERYONE MUST SEE FAHRENHEIT 911 ----
radioact1ve wrote:
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:06:24 +1200, Joel Wiramu Pauling <aenertia@aenertia.net> wrote:
I've just installed garnome 2.8 into suse 9.1 amd
how?! Did you use garnome or solo? You must tell me please! :)
I have a custom kernel from kernel.org...
I was looking at kernel.org and I couldn't find a kernel for AMD64. How does this work? Is there a special kernel that takes advantage of 64bits or does the normal kernel do it automatically?
<STUFF DELETED> kernel.org has the KERNEL, it's for all supported architectures. You grab the same kernel and patches and build it on any architecture, x86, x86_64, intel 64-bit, 390, SPARC or whatever. I have x86 and x86_64 2.6.9-rc2-mm3 kernels built from the same downloaded source and one day soon, I shall build linux a kernel for my SPARC box after I've blown away the severely crippled Solaris 9 that Sun has put up for download. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====
I was able to compile my own kernel with no errors the first time. and its 64-bit. very nice and easy. But I was wondering if there is any that I can get that nice boot splash with my own kernel? The one with the suse lizard and it says at the top, "press F2 for details" Is this possible? -- - Miguel radioact1ve@gmail.com http://radioact1ve.blogspot.com/ -- EVERYONE MUST SEE FAHRENHEIT 911 ----
Gemtoo has an excellent howto about splashscreens.. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=49036 personally I can't stand the things... The other way to do it is just to load X before other services... AKA Fedora style... I have setup my rc init's at one point having a full gui loading in sub 10 secs... of course services are still comming up in the background... On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 23:53 -0400, radioact1ve wrote:
I was able to compile my own kernel with no errors the first time. and its 64-bit. very nice and easy. But I was wondering if there is any that I can get that nice boot splash with my own kernel? The one with the suse lizard and it says at the top, "press F2 for details" Is this possible?
-- - Miguel radioact1ve@gmail.com http://radioact1ve.blogspot.com/ -- EVERYONE MUST SEE FAHRENHEIT 911 ----
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