Re: [suse-amd64] AMD64 / Tyan S2885 and NVidia 6800 Ultra
Hello Kevin / Ken, Thanks for both of your replies. I'm only planning on having just 2 GB RAM. So I would assume any possible conflicts / problems are due to the version of the BIOS and the kernel version? Not any problems between the Tyan motherboard and the nVidia card? So I should not upgrade the BIOS if I want to use SuSE 9.2? BTW: What sise PSU yo have? Thank you VERY MUCH again... ________________________________________ Ricardo R Palma SYNOPSIS SA Telef. (+51 1) 275-4941 / 275-4708 / 275-7523 email : rrpalma@synopsis.ws www.synopsis.ws -----Kevin_Gassiot@veritasdgc.com wrote: ----- To: Ken Siersma <siersmak@ekkinc.com> From: Kevin_Gassiot@veritasdgc.com Date: 01/24/2005 12:22PM cc: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] AMD64 / Tyan S2885 and NVidia 6800 Ultra I have one of those in my office ( Tyan S2885, Nvidia 6800 Ultra). We are running the Tyan S2885/Nvidia combo with 16 Gb of memory in production, but we are still running Suse 9.0 and an older BIOS for the motherboard for production work: v1.02 BIOS SuSE 9.0 ( I am running the 2.4.21-193 or 2.4.21-243 kernel) Nvidia 1.0-6629 driver I have tried loading Suse 9.1 and 9.2 to get to the 2.6 kernel, but in the little bit of testing that I have been able to do, going to the new v2.02 BIOS for this board made the system unable to boot Suse 9.1, and had to do some contortions to get 9.2 to boot. Have been doing some testing this morning, and the v2.02 BIOS, Suse 9.2, Nvidia combo has been very unstable. Anytime I try to run my OpenGL testing program, either the X server locks up, or I get a screen full of garbage and have to reset the machine. Don't know if it is specific to Suse or not, but I may try Fedora to see if I have the same problems.... Kevin Gassiot Advanced Systems Group Visualization Systems Support Veritas DGC 10300 Town Park Dr. Houston, Texas 77072 832-351-8978 kevin_gassiot@veritasdgc.com Ken Siersma com> To suse-amd64@suse.com 01/24/2005 11:03 cc AM Subject Re: [suse-amd64] AMD64 / Tyan S2885 and NVidia 6800 Ultra rrpalma@synopsis.ws wrote:
Hello, Anybody tried the above combination, with a dual Opteron config? I'm thinking about putting up a system based on Tyan S2885 (thunder K8W) and the graphics card I like the most is the BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help.
________________________________________ Ricardo R Palma
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If you are thinking about ever having 4 or more GB of RAM, I'd stay away from the Tyan S2885 - see my thread 'System memory missing - AGP card taking it?' -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help@suse.com -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help@suse.com
rrpalma@synopsis.ws wrote:
Hello Kevin / Ken,
Thanks for both of your replies. I'm only planning on having just 2 GB RAM. So I would assume any possible conflicts / problems are due to the version of the BIOS and the kernel version? Not any problems between the Tyan motherboard and the nVidia card? So I should not upgrade the BIOS if I want to use SuSE 9.2?
BTW: What sise PSU yo have?
Thank you VERY MUCH again...
________________________________________ Ricardo R Palma
SYNOPSIS SA Telef. (+51 1) 275-4941 / 275-4708 / 275-7523 email : rrpalma@synopsis.ws
www.synopsis.ws
-----Kevin_Gassiot@veritasdgc.com wrote: -----
To: Ken Siersma <siersmak@ekkinc.com> From: Kevin_Gassiot@veritasdgc.com Date: 01/24/2005 12:22PM cc: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] AMD64 / Tyan S2885 and NVidia 6800 Ultra
I have one of those in my office ( Tyan S2885, Nvidia 6800 Ultra). We are running the Tyan S2885/Nvidia combo with 16 Gb of memory in production, but we are still running Suse 9.0 and an older BIOS for the motherboard for production work:
v1.02 BIOS SuSE 9.0 ( I am running the 2.4.21-193 or 2.4.21-243 kernel) Nvidia 1.0-6629 driver
I have tried loading Suse 9.1 and 9.2 to get to the 2.6 kernel, but in the little bit of testing that I have been able to do, going to the new v2.02 BIOS for this board made the system unable to boot Suse 9.1, and had to do some contortions to get 9.2 to boot. Have been doing some testing this morning, and the v2.02 BIOS, Suse 9.2, Nvidia combo has been very unstable. Anytime I try to run my OpenGL testing program, either the X server locks up, or I get a screen full of garbage and have to reset the machine.
Don't know if it is specific to Suse or not, but I may try Fedora to see if I have the same problems....
Kevin Gassiot Advanced Systems Group Visualization Systems Support
Veritas DGC 10300 Town Park Dr. Houston, Texas 77072 832-351-8978 kevin_gassiot@veritasdgc.com
Ken Siersma com> To suse-amd64@suse.com 01/24/2005 11:03 cc AM Subject Re: [suse-amd64] AMD64 / Tyan S2885 and NVidia 6800 Ultra
rrpalma@synopsis.ws wrote:
Hello, Anybody tried the above combination, with a dual Opteron config? I'm thinking about putting up a system based on Tyan S2885 (thunder K8W) and the graphics card I like the most is the BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help.
________________________________________ Ricardo R Palma
SYNOPSIS SA Telef. (+51 1) 275-4941 / 275-4708 / 275-7523 email : rrpalma@synopsis.ws
www.synopsis.ws
If you are thinking about ever having 4 or more GB of RAM, I'd stay away from the Tyan S2885 - see my thread 'System memory missing - AGP card taking it?'
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2 GB works fine for me. I don't have that specific card, but my Quadro FX 1100 also seems to work fine. My machine came with the latest BIOS (2.02) installed. From Kevin's notes, it seems I may want to downgrade my BIOS My power supply is 550W. -- Ken Siersma, Software Engineer EKK, Inc. phone: (248) 624-9957 fax: (248) 624-7158 http://www.ekkinc.com -- "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -MLK Jr.
The power supplies in these machines are 550W I can't give you any real definitive answer on 9.2, as I have just started to try it out. However, everytime I have tried upgrading my BIOS, I run into problems that make me drop back to v1.02 until I can get some time to just work on this machine steadily to try and figure things out ... I've also got some font issues on 9.2 (even on the 32-bit version on a Pentium4), possibly due to the move from XFree86 to Xorg in 9.2 ? I just can't make the jump yet, until several little issues get worked out so that my workstation will be usable on 9.2.... Kevin Gassiot Advanced Systems Group Visualization Systems Support Veritas DGC 10300 Town Park Dr. Houston, Texas 77072 832-351-8978 kevin_gassiot@veritasdgc.com rrpalma@synopsis. ws To 01/24/2005 11:27 Kevin_Gassiot@veritasdgc.com AM cc Ken Siersma <siersmak@ekkinc.com>, suse-amd64@suse.com Subject Re: [suse-amd64] AMD64 / Tyan S2885 and NVidia 6800 Ultra Hello Kevin / Ken, Thanks for both of your replies. I'm only planning on having just 2 GB RAM. So I would assume any possible conflicts / problems are due to the version of the BIOS and the kernel version? Not any problems between the Tyan motherboard and the nVidia card? So I should not upgrade the BIOS if I want to use SuSE 9.2? BTW: What sise PSU yo have? Thank you VERY MUCH again... ________________________________________ Ricardo R Palma SYNOPSIS SA Telef. (+51 1) 275-4941 / 275-4708 / 275-7523 email : rrpalma@synopsis.ws www.synopsis.ws -----Kevin_Gassiot@veritasdgc.com wrote: ----- To: Ken Siersma <siersmak@ekkinc.com> From: Kevin_Gassiot@veritasdgc.com Date: 01/24/2005 12:22PM cc: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] AMD64 / Tyan S2885 and NVidia 6800 Ultra I have one of those in my office ( Tyan S2885, Nvidia 6800 Ultra). We are running the Tyan S2885/Nvidia combo with 16 Gb of memory in production, but we are still running Suse 9.0 and an older BIOS for the motherboard for production work: v1.02 BIOS SuSE 9.0 ( I am running the 2.4.21-193 or 2.4.21-243 kernel) Nvidia 1.0-6629 driver I have tried loading Suse 9.1 and 9.2 to get to the 2.6 kernel, but in the little bit of testing that I have been able to do, going to the new v2.02 BIOS for this board made the system unable to boot Suse 9.1, and had to do some contortions to get 9.2 to boot. Have been doing some testing this morning, and the v2.02 BIOS, Suse 9.2, Nvidia combo has been very unstable. Anytime I try to run my OpenGL testing program, either the X server locks up, or I get a screen full of garbage and have to reset the machine. Don't know if it is specific to Suse or not, but I may try Fedora to see if I have the same problems.... Kevin Gassiot Advanced Systems Group Visualization Systems Support Veritas DGC 10300 Town Park Dr. Houston, Texas 77072 832-351-8978 kevin_gassiot@veritasdgc.com Ken Siersma com> To suse-amd64@suse.com 01/24/2005 11:03 cc AM Subject Re: [suse-amd64] AMD64 / Tyan S2885 and NVidia 6800 Ultra rrpalma@synopsis.ws wrote:
Hello, Anybody tried the above combination, with a dual Opteron config? I'm thinking about putting up a system based on Tyan S2885 (thunder K8W) and the graphics card I like the most is the BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help.
________________________________________ Ricardo R Palma
SYNOPSIS SA Telef. (+51 1) 275-4941 / 275-4708 / 275-7523 email : rrpalma@synopsis.ws
www.synopsis.ws
If you are thinking about ever having 4 or more GB of RAM, I'd stay away from the Tyan S2885 - see my thread 'System memory missing - AGP card taking it?' -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help@suse.com -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help@suse.com
Kevin_Gassiot@veritasdgc.com wrote:
The power supplies in these machines are 550W
I can't give you any real definitive answer on 9.2, as I have just started to try it out. However, everytime I have tried upgrading my BIOS, I run into problems that make me drop back to v1.02 until I can get some time to just work on this machine steadily to try and figure things out ...
I've also got some font issues on 9.2 (even on the 32-bit version on a Pentium4), possibly due to the move from XFree86 to Xorg in 9.2 ? I just can't make the jump yet, until several little issues get worked out so that my workstation will be usable on 9.2....
Hmm... I was just reading this thread. I have a Tyan 2885 (Thunder K8W) and 2882 (Thunder K8S Pro), with with 2 processors each, and at different times run with 4GB, 6GB, and 8GB. BIOS versions: -- Tyan 2885 required version 2.02 before the kernels and NVidia drivers just worked out of box. Earlier Suse Pro 9 kernels don't work with 1.X BIOSes and lots of RAM due to MTRR mapping problems. -- Tyan 2882 has always worked but I had at least the 2.02 version of it's BIOS (which is different from the Tyan 2885's versions BTW). With the caveat that for newer kernels I've been disabling the USB controller because of the memory conflict issue (I haven't tried to see if it works on current kernels, too lazy ;-), I have run (all 64-bit versions): -- Suse Pro 9 (should use at least the -193 service pack kernel), 9.1 (unpatched version would eventually crash with an X issue), and 9.2. -- Some SLES 8 & 9. SLES 8 worked in general but I wouldn't trust the unpatched compilers from SLES 8, I had problems with them. -- Fedora Core 2 and Fedora Core 3. All with various kernel update versions. The "current" update versions for all the above as of a month or so ago were working OK except not even trying to use SLES 8 anymore since it was so early in the 64-bit Linux cycle. I work with a lot of different versions at work at AMD and recreationally at home. On the 2885 I have an NVidia card and have been using the NVidia drivers with few problems. The current drivers solved any I'd had. YMMV. -- Erich Stefan Boleyn <erich@uruk.org> http://www.uruk.org/ "Reality is truly stranger than fiction; Probably why fiction is so popular"
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