locks on Asus A8V

Stefan Suurmeijer

14 Mar 2005 14 Mar '05

10:50

Hi List, Last week I bought an Asus A8V motherboard with an AMD64 3000+ and installed SuSE 64 bit on it. So far, not to my satisfaction however. This week, I've had more hanging systems than the previous 5 years. I've been consistenly able to reproduce a system hang by doing the following: - Installed SuSE 9.2 64 bit - Start an ssh session to an external machine - Start an ssh session from the external machine back to your own machine - Generate some actions, for example a few directory listings Every time, the machine completely freezes. My machine uses SuSE linux with out of the box openssh, the remote machine uses commercial ssh (I didn't have any openssh machines to test if the same problem occurs). After looking on the net at first I figured it was an issue with the onboard LAN adapter, so I disabled it and added a second Intel E100 pro. No difference, still locks up. By now, I've disabled pretty much everything I could think of that might cause the problem (onboard sound, onboard lan, onboard 1394, onboard via SATA chipset, powersaved, etc) The only "strange" things I've noticed on the install were that php-swf fails to install with an error (but I didn't really need that, so I just deselected it) and that irqbalance is started by default but fails, so I disabled that too. I even went so far as to install a new kernel (home built 2.6.11) and still got locks. Anybody experienced something like this and have any hints as to where to look? TIA, Stefan

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Alex Angerhofer

14 Mar 14 Mar

12:37

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Hi Stefan, On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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Hi List,

Last week I bought an Asus A8V motherboard with an AMD64 3000+ and installed SuSE 64 bit on it. So far, not to my satisfaction however.

I have the same system as you with an AMD64 2200+ on it.

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This week, I've had more hanging systems than the previous 5 years. I've been consistenly able to reproduce a system hang by doing the following:

- Installed SuSE 9.2 64 bit - Start an ssh session to an external machine - Start an ssh session from the external machine back to your own machine - Generate some actions, for example a few directory listings

My system runs decently. The only times I had freezes and hang-ups where when I had: - Two hard drives connected to the two SATA connectors at the same time. Everytime the second hard drive was to be accessed the system hung. I ended up putting the second drive on the RAID disabling it in the BIOS. - The overclocking set up on AUTO in the BIOS. Putting the frequency right on what it was supposed to be helped a lot. - My Kingston RAM developed a memory hole at the 993 MB point. Found that with memtest86. After RAM replacement things were much improved.

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Every time, the machine completely freezes. My machine uses SuSE linux with out of the box openssh, the remote machine uses commercial ssh (I didn't have any openssh machines to test if the same problem occurs).

I doubt that openssh makes your machine freeze. It is probably a hardware issue. I sometimes observe that ssh is slow after starting a program that has to tunnel X through the wire. But that shouldn't be the issue in your case.

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After looking on the net at first I figured it was an issue with the onboard LAN adapter, so I disabled it and added a second Intel E100 pro.

My onboard LAN works fine.

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No difference, still locks up. By now, I've disabled pretty much everything I could think of that might cause the problem (onboard sound, onboard lan, onboard 1394, onboard via SATA chipset, powersaved, etc) The only "strange" things I've noticed on the install were that php-swf fails to install with an error (but I didn't really need that, so I just deselected it) and that irqbalance is started by default but fails, so I disabled that too.

Well, I have to admit that the hardware problems I listed above may not be all possible points of failure. My system sometimes still gets hick-ups. There may be other issues with this board that I haven't been able to find. For example, sometimes it failes to boot up and has to be powercycled. Occasionally, I fail to get all my start-up daemons loaded. I don't trust ASUS anymore. I have Pentium ASUS boards and they have issues, too. OTOH, my system is pretty crowded with peripherals and that may have to do with some of these issues as well. Best regards, Alex.

Stefan Suurmeijer

12:53

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Hi Alex, Alex Angerhofer wrote:

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Hi Stefan,

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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Hi List,

Last week I bought an Asus A8V motherboard with an AMD64 3000+ and installed SuSE 64 bit on it. So far, not to my satisfaction however.

I have the same system as you with an AMD64 2200+ on it.

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This week, I've had more hanging systems than the previous 5 years. I've been consistenly able to reproduce a system hang by doing the following:

- Installed SuSE 9.2 64 bit - Start an ssh session to an external machine - Start an ssh session from the external machine back to your own machine - Generate some actions, for example a few directory listings

My system runs decently. The only times I had freezes and hang-ups where when I had: - Two hard drives connected to the two SATA connectors at the same time. Everytime the second hard drive was to be accessed the system hung. I ended up putting the second drive on the RAID disabling it in the BIOS.

Ah, I have two SATA drives (and one PATA), had them connected to the VIA SATA first, moved them to the Promise SATA instead (to rule out problems with the VIA). So you have on SATA drive on the promise and one on the VIA controller?

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- The overclocking set up on AUTO in the BIOS. Putting the frequency right on what it was supposed to be helped a lot. - My Kingston RAM developed a memory hole at the 993 MB point. Found that with memtest86. After RAM replacement things were much improved.

ok, I have overclocking on AI. Figured that that would use the default settings. I'll change them to the correct settings manually. What kind of Kingston RAM do you use? PC 3200 or faster?

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Every time, the machine completely freezes. My machine uses SuSE linux with out of the box openssh, the remote machine uses commercial ssh (I didn't have any openssh machines to test if the same problem occurs).

I doubt that openssh makes your machine freeze. It is probably a hardware issue. I sometimes observe that ssh is slow after starting a program that has to tunnel X through the wire. But that shouldn't be the issue in your case.

I also don't know if ssh is the only thing that makes the machine freeze, but it's the only thing I've been able to consistently reproduce. So I looked at network issues mainly

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After looking on the net at first I figured it was an issue with the onboard LAN adapter, so I disabled it and added a second Intel E100 pro.

My onboard LAN works fine.

Ok. I found a few references on the internet about people that had experienced lock-ups as well, and mentioned their being something wrong with the kernel module for the Marvell Gbit NIC

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No difference, still locks up. By now, I've disabled pretty much everything I could think of that might cause the problem (onboard sound, onboard lan, onboard 1394, onboard via SATA chipset, powersaved, etc) The only "strange" things I've noticed on the install were that php-swf fails to install with an error (but I didn't really need that, so I just deselected it) and that irqbalance is started by default but fails, so I disabled that too.

Well, I have to admit that the hardware problems I listed above may not be all possible points of failure. My system sometimes still gets hick-ups. There may be other issues with this board that I haven't been able to find. For example, sometimes it failes to boot up and has to be powercycled. Occasionally, I fail to get all my start-up daemons loaded. I don't trust ASUS anymore. I have Pentium ASUS boards and they have issues, too. OTOH, my system is pretty crowded with peripherals and that may have to do with some of these issues as well.

I had the issue you mention as well: this is actually my second A8V board: the first didn't boot twice either. And twice it did boot, but suddenly didn't detect the devices connected to the IDE controller. So I figured that the motherboard was defective, and exchanged it. Haven't had those issues anymore since. I always had good experiences with ASUS boards, this is the first time I've had this much trouble... I'll try the overclocking settings and moving one SATA disk back to the VIA. By now I'll try pretty much anything :/ thanks, Stefan

Alex Angerhofer

15:14

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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... Ah, I have two SATA drives (and one PATA), had them connected to the VIA SATA first, moved them to the Promise SATA instead (to rule out problems with the VIA). So you have on SATA drive on the promise and one on the VIA controller?

Yes.

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,,, ok, I have overclocking on AI. Figured that that would use the default settings. I'll change them to the correct settings manually. What kind of Kingston RAM do you use? PC 3200 or faster?

Just regular PC3200, but of course a matched pair. To be more specific, this is what I use: http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator/partsinfo.asp?ktcpartno=KVR400X...

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... I also don't know if ssh is the only thing that makes the machine freeze, but it's the only thing I've been able to consistently reproduce. So I looked at network issues mainly

That still sounds weird.

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Ok. I found a few references on the internet about people that had experienced lock-ups as well, and mentioned their being something wrong with the kernel module for the Marvell Gbit NIC

No problems here. I used this board with SuSE 9.1 64 bit and now since a couple of months 9.2 64 bit without any network problems. I have the Marvell sit on my Westell DSL modem and another network card to supply connectivity to another computer in the home.

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... I had the issue you mention as well: this is actually my second A8V board: the first didn't boot twice either. And twice it did boot, but suddenly didn't detect the devices connected to the IDE controller. So I figured that the motherboard was defective, and exchanged it. Haven't had those issues anymore since. I always had good experiences with ASUS boards, this is the first time I've had this much trouble...

I'll try the overclocking settings and moving one SATA disk back to the VIA. By now I'll try pretty much anything :/

Good luck, Alex.

Harald Milz

15 Mar 15 Mar

20:31

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Alex Angerhofer wrote:

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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Ok. I found a few references on the internet about people that had experienced lock-ups as well, and mentioned their being something wrong with the kernel module for the Marvell Gbit NIC No problems here. I used this board with SuSE 9.1 64 bit and now since a couple of months 9.2 64 bit without any network problems. I have the Marvell sit on my Westell DSL modem and another network card to supply connectivity to another computer in the home.

I did have bad problems with the sk98lin driver. My NIS/NFS server serves the /home, and nearly each time I logged into my A8V workstation, it froze immediately. Disabling the Marvell chip and using an RTL8139 made that go away for good. According to Andi Kleen's comments on this list from Jan 6/7, 2005, this is a known problem but it hasn't been fixed yet (at least not in 2.6.8-SL92_BRANCH_20050216124101-default). This problem seems not to occur with every IP protocol but NFS is apparently one of them. -- "These are DARK TIMES for all mankind's HIGHEST VALUES!" "These are DARK TIMES for FREEDOM and PROSPERITY!" "These are GREAT TIMES to put your money on BAD GUY to kick the CRAP out of MEGATON MAN!"

Stefan Suurmeijer

16 Mar 16 Mar

09:22

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Problem is: I've already disabled it and put in an e100 pro. I've even tried putting one SATA drive on the Promise controller and the other on the VIA. No change. I've exchanged the memory for the second time, now it has Dane Elec RAM chips. No effect either. The PSU is an Antec TruePower 430 W, should be ok. By now, I'm actually thinking of installing <OMG>Windows</OMG> on the machine to see what happens. Or Ubuntu. I even installed 32bit SuSE to see if that would help: it didn't. I could buy some Crucial RAM chips, but I'd like to make sure that'll actually help. So if anyone has ANY new idea, please volunteer it (anyone from SuSE have any idea?) Mhy setup is as follows: PSU: Antec TruePower 430W Mobo: Asus A8V deluxe AMD64 3000+ s939 2x 512 MB Dane Elec PC3200 RAM 1x 60 GB MAxtor PATA HDD as IDE 1 Master (GRUB is on this one) 1x DVD player as IDE2 Master 1x DVD recorder as IDE2 Slave 1x 120 GB Maxtor SATA HDD, now on promise controller 1st port, non-raid mode 1x 120 GB Maxtor SATA HDD, now on VIA SATA 1 (I've tried them both on the Via and both on the promise as well, all no change) Ati Radeon 9250 128 MB VGA 2x Intel pro 100 NIC Temperature is not an issue, Bios reports CPU temp at ~30 celsius, mobo at ~20.5 celsius. And yet I consistently get system freezes, I can even reproduce them by doing an outbound ssh connection and then connecting back to my own machine. Doing a few ls -l 's will freeze the machine every time. Harald Milz wrote:

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Alex Angerhofer wrote:

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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Ok. I found a few references on the internet about people that had experienced lock-ups as well, and mentioned their being something wrong with the kernel module for the Marvell Gbit NIC

No problems here. I used this board with SuSE 9.1 64 bit and now since a couple of months 9.2 64 bit without any network problems. I have the Marvell sit on my Westell DSL modem and another network card to supply connectivity to another computer in the home.

I did have bad problems with the sk98lin driver. My NIS/NFS server serves the /home, and nearly each time I logged into my A8V workstation, it froze immediately. Disabling the Marvell chip and using an RTL8139 made that go away for good.

According to Andi Kleen's comments on this list from Jan 6/7, 2005, this is a known problem but it hasn't been fixed yet (at least not in 2.6.8-SL92_BRANCH_20050216124101-default). This problem seems not to occur with every IP protocol but NFS is apparently one of them.

R Kimber

11:26

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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:22:24 +0100 Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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Problem is: I've already disabled it and put in an e100 pro. I've even tried putting one SATA drive on the Promise controller and the other on the VIA. No change. I've exchanged the memory for the second time, now it has Dane Elec RAM chips. No effect either. The PSU is an Antec TruePower 430 W, should be ok. By now, I'm actually thinking of installing <OMG>Windows</OMG> on the machine to see what happens. Or Ubuntu. I even installed 32bit SuSE to see if that would help: it didn't. I could buy some Crucial RAM chips, but I'd like to make sure that'll actually help.

So if anyone has ANY new idea, please volunteer it (anyone from SuSE have any idea?)

Well ... it's only an idea ... the trouble is there are so many variables, and comparisons between distributions aren't really a proper experiment because often key variables are not the same ... I've had a lot of lockups/freezes too, though always when using a browser (I haven't used ssh). I've been experimenting with 64bit Ubuntu and with 36bit Ubuntu. I've used the former extensively and have not experienced the problem yet. Browsers crash, but the machine remains useable. I'm starting to wonder if it has something to do with the 36/64 bit combination that's available with SuSe that doesn't appear in 'pure' systems (libraries getting confused??). Or it could be a SuSe problem - I haven't had the time to try pure 36bit SuSe. I've not experienced any problem with Windows XP, which is also on the machine, but I don't actually use it much so it's not really been tested in anger: I just use it for some graphics jobs that Gimp can't handle, and for checking for bios updates (MSI have an automated system). I have MSI Master2-FAR dual opteron, 9.2 - Richard. -- Richard Kimber http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/

Stefan Suurmeijer

17 Mar 17 Mar

12:38

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I actually have installed Ubuntu on the system (windows was too scary after all ;-)) and so far it's running fine. Haven't been able to reproduce the ssh problem. So it does look like the problem was somehow related to SuSE 9.2. Not a clue what it was Anyway, I'll keep running Ubuntu until I get 9.3 R Kimber wrote:

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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:22:24 +0100 Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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Problem is: I've already disabled it and put in an e100 pro. I've even tried putting one SATA drive on the Promise controller and the other on the VIA. No change. I've exchanged the memory for the second time, now it has Dane Elec RAM chips. No effect either. The PSU is an Antec TruePower 430 W, should be ok. By now, I'm actually thinking of installing <OMG>Windows</OMG> on the machine to see what happens. Or Ubuntu. I even installed 32bit SuSE to see if that would help: it didn't. I could buy some Crucial RAM chips, but I'd like to make sure that'll actually help.

So if anyone has ANY new idea, please volunteer it (anyone from SuSE have any idea?)

Well ... it's only an idea ... the trouble is there are so many variables, and comparisons between distributions aren't really a proper experiment because often key variables are not the same ...

I've had a lot of lockups/freezes too, though always when using a browser (I haven't used ssh). I've been experimenting with 64bit Ubuntu and with 36bit Ubuntu. I've used the former extensively and have not experienced the problem yet. Browsers crash, but the machine remains useable. I'm starting to wonder if it has something to do with the 36/64 bit combination that's available with SuSe that doesn't appear in 'pure' systems (libraries getting confused??). Or it could be a SuSe problem - I haven't had the time to try pure 36bit SuSe.

I've not experienced any problem with Windows XP, which is also on the machine, but I don't actually use it much so it's not really been tested in anger: I just use it for some graphics jobs that Gimp can't handle, and for checking for bios updates (MSI have an automated system).

I have MSI Master2-FAR dual opteron, 9.2

- Richard.

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Alex Angerhofer

16 Mar 16 Mar

12:30

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Stefan: On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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Problem is: I've already disabled it and put in an e100 pro. I've even tried putting one SATA drive on the Promise controller and the other on the VIA. No change. I've exchanged the memory for the second time, now it has Dane Elec RAM chips. No effect either. The PSU is an Antec TruePower 430 W, should be ok. By now, I'm actually thinking of installing <OMG>Windows</OMG> on the machine to see what happens. Or

I suspect that your mobo is defective. Put Windows on the box and check it out. That way you know for sure and youc an return it.

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Ubuntu. I even installed 32bit SuSE to see if that would help: it didn't. I could buy some Crucial RAM chips, but I'd like to make sure that'll actually help.

Don't throw any more good money after bad hardware. Just my 2 cents. Best regards, Alex.

Janis Klava

12:55

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On Wednesday 16 March 2005 14:27, Alex Angerhofer wrote:

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Stefan:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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Problem is: I've already disabled it and put in an e100 pro. I've even tried putting one SATA drive on the Promise controller and the other on the VIA. No change. I've exchanged the memory for the second time, now it has Dane Elec RAM chips. No effect either. The PSU is an Antec TruePower 430 W, should be ok. By now, I'm actually thinking of installing <OMG>Windows</OMG> on the machine to see what happens. Or

I suspect that your mobo is defective. Put Windows on the box and check it out. That way you know for sure and youc an return it.

Might read the following article .. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21780

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Ubuntu. I even installed 32bit SuSE to see if that would help: it didn't. I could buy some Crucial RAM chips, but I'd like to make sure that'll actually help.

Don't throw any more good money after bad hardware.

Just my 2 cents.

Best regards, Alex.

Robert Cunningham

14:05

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Janis Klava wrote:

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On Wednesday 16 March 2005 14:27, Alex Angerhofer wrote:

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Stefan:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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Problem is: I've already disabled it and put in an e100 pro. I've even tried putting one SATA drive on the Promise controller and the other on the VIA. No change. I've exchanged the memory for the second time, now it has Dane Elec RAM chips. No effect either. The PSU is an Antec TruePower 430 W, should be ok. By now, I'm actually thinking of installing <OMG>Windows</OMG> on the machine to see what happens. Or

I suspect that your mobo is defective. Put Windows on the box and check it out. That way you know for sure and youc an return it.

Might read the following article .. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21780

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Ubuntu. I even installed 32bit SuSE to see if that would help: it didn't. I could buy some Crucial RAM chips, but I'd like to make sure that'll actually help.

Don't throw any more good money after bad hardware.

Just my 2 cents.

Best regards, Alex.

I have had some issues when I fired up my board for the first time as well. From comments from this group as well as others, I disabled the on board nic and installed a 3com nic. I had lockups and data loss from sata drives. It seems this board is very picky which drives you use. This first drive I tried was a Segate and I could not get it to work with either the promise or the via. I switched to 2 Hitachi (IBM) drives I put them on the promise, disabled the via and my board has worked great since. I also had trouble with the nivida 3d drivers with random lock-ups, since I don't do games I went back to the stock 2d drivers and it currently has about 3 weeks uptime with no lockups. -- Robert Cunningham Sr. Physics Laboratory Coordinator /RSO Kettering University Flint, Michigan 48504 (810) 762-7935 rcunnig@kettering.edu

Stefan Suurmeijer

17 Mar 17 Mar

12:40

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The A8V has a VIA chipset, not nforce. So this isn't the cause. Mobo also isn't defective: from the fact that Ubuntu is now running without problem I figure that it wasn't a hardware issue after all. Janis Klava wrote:

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On Wednesday 16 March 2005 14:27, Alex Angerhofer wrote:

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Stefan:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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Problem is: I've already disabled it and put in an e100 pro. I've even tried putting one SATA drive on the Promise controller and the other on the VIA. No change. I've exchanged the memory for the second time, now it has Dane Elec RAM chips. No effect either. The PSU is an Antec TruePower 430 W, should be ok. By now, I'm actually thinking of installing <OMG>Windows</OMG> on the machine to see what happens. Or

I suspect that your mobo is defective. Put Windows on the box and check it out. That way you know for sure and youc an return it.

Might read the following article .. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21780

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Ubuntu. I even installed 32bit SuSE to see if that would help: it didn't. I could buy some Crucial RAM chips, but I'd like to make sure that'll actually help.

Don't throw any more good money after bad hardware.

Just my 2 cents.

Best regards, Alex.

William A. Mahaffey III

13:28

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Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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The A8V has a VIA chipset, not nforce. So this isn't the cause. Mobo also isn't defective: from the fact that Ubuntu is now running without problem I figure that it wasn't a hardware issue after all.

Janis Klava wrote:

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On Wednesday 16 March 2005 14:27, Alex Angerhofer wrote:

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Stefan:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Stefan Suurmeijer wrote:

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Problem is: I've already disabled it and put in an e100 pro. I've even tried putting one SATA drive on the Promise controller and the other on the VIA. No change. I've exchanged the memory for the second time, now it has Dane Elec RAM chips. No effect either. The PSU is an Antec TruePower 430 W, should be ok. By now, I'm actually thinking of installing <OMG>Windows</OMG> on the machine to see what happens. Or

I suspect that your mobo is defective. Put Windows on the box and check it out. That way you know for sure and youc an return it.

Might read the following article .. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21780

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Ubuntu. I even installed 32bit SuSE to see if that would help: it didn't. I could buy some Crucial RAM chips, but I'd like to make sure that'll actually help.

Don't throw any more good money after bad hardware.

Just my 2 cents.

Best regards, Alex.

Are you running the Ubuntu 32-bit or 64-bit ? I looked them over a few weeks ago & it didn't sound like they had 64-bit AMD going ....

sean-lynch＠sean-lynch.com

13:40

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Install CD: http://www.opensourcemirrors.org/ubuntu-cd/5.04/hoary-preview-install-amd64.... Live CD: http://www.opensourcemirrors.org/ubuntu-cd/5.04/hoary-preview-live-amd64.iso They have versions for x86, PowerPC, AMD64, and IA64. This is a prerelease of version 5.04 'Hoary Hedgehog' Their 4.10 ''Warty Warthog' release is more stable, but live CD is x86 only for 4.10. I have been running 4.10 dual boot with SuSE 9.x for over 6 months now. very nice and stable. Good debian based distro. cheers Sean On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:34:15 -0600 "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote:

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Are you running the Ubuntu 32-bit or 64-bit ? I looked them over a few weeks ago & it didn't sound like they had 64-bit AMD going ....

William A. Mahaffey III

23:04

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sean-lynch@sean-lynch.com wrote:

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Install CD: http://www.opensourcemirrors.org/ubuntu-cd/5.04/hoary-preview-install-amd64....

Live CD: http://www.opensourcemirrors.org/ubuntu-cd/5.04/hoary-preview-live-amd64.iso

They have versions for x86, PowerPC, AMD64, and IA64.

This is a prerelease of version 5.04 'Hoary Hedgehog'

Their 4.10 ''Warty Warthog' release is more stable, but live CD is x86 only for 4.10.

I have been running 4.10 dual boot with SuSE 9.x for over 6 months now. very nice and stable. Good debian based distro.

cheers

Sean On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:34:15 -0600 "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote:

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Are you running the Ubuntu 32-bit or 64-bit ? I looked them over a few weeks ago & it didn't sound like they had 64-bit AMD going ....

Roger that. I *think* I got lost somewhere, only saw IA64 & not AMD64, under 4.10 .... Thanks.

R Kimber

13:43

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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:34:15 -0600 "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote:

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Are you running the Ubuntu 32-bit or 64-bit ? I looked them over a few weeks ago & it didn't sound like they had 64-bit AMD going ....

I'm running 64-bit, but it's a 'pure' system - i.e. no 32-bit - Richard -- Richard Kimber http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/

Siegbert Baude

14 Mar 14 Mar

13:19

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Hi Stefan, I missed to add the list on my first reply; sorry for urging you to get this twice, Stefan.

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Anybody experienced something like this and have any hints as to where to look?

I just want to say, that we have 3 A8V at work all with Athlon3500+ (Winchester), Adaptec 19160 SCSI-Controllers and Radeon7000 graphic cards. Two of them have 2GB RAM one has 4GB RAM (all of them Crucial 1GB-modules). Onboard-SATA is switched off, but besides we use everything onboard (ethernet, sound, usb). The only problem is that BIOS remapping for the 4GB machine doesn't work (despite Asus support claiming that it works with RH Enterprise and Win-64, the Suse people say it is a BIOS bug). But no lockups or anything unusual. The machines are used for numerical simulations, so the load over long periods is quite heavy. Ciao Siegbert

Siegbert Baude

13:21

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Hi Stefan,

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You say you use Crucial modules? What kind, DDR2? I use standard PC 3200 RAM chips atm, have even tried replacing those, but the only thing I can think of in terms of hardware is memory problems...

Those are standard DDR-3200 (not DDR2) modules. I can't tell their exact type as we originally demanded Infineon ones. Our vendor couldn't get them in time, so we changed this on-the-fly by a telephone call only. With regard to your problems, there are also a lot of rumours about unstable SATA drivers on different linux newsgroups. Do you have an old ATA or SCSI-disk lying around to check this out? But my first normal guess would be RAM, too. Ciao Siegbert

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Alex Angerhofer
Harald Milz
Janis Klava
R Kimber
Robert Cunningham
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Siegbert Baude
Stefan Suurmeijer
William A. Mahaffey III

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Harald Milz

R Kimber

Janis Klava

William A. Mahaffey III

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William A. Mahaffey III

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