Dont expect any "support" from suse.com !
we will not communicate on such a level with you. ***well thats not a surprise, since so far "your company" have refused to communicate on ANY level, so what difference has occured ? you have spent a LOT (LOT) of time telling me what you WONT do, but almost NO time on a few (probably simple) solutions. So for a "manager" you have failed AGAIN, just wasting time .....
Please take a course in politeness and Netiquett before contacting us again. ***what would be the point of that ? since you would STILL refuse to be of any help ? (dont forget i WAS as polite as anyonelse at the BEGINNING, its only NOW that you have demonstrated your STUBBORN ignorance that i Reflect your own covert mannerisms). you know what "covert" means ?
AND even if i pay for your "Advanced Support", you still say "we will take the money but NOT guarantee to be of any use" is your "company" typical of german software support ? AND after experiencing the appalling low level of your general intelligences, who would expect you to be able to solve anything anyway ? after all youre "only a distributor" as you just told me. ***so you are tricking people into buying your OS on the pretence of being helpful - when you simply are not. Your leaflet says "we will gladly provide assistance", so why are you not "glad" to hear from ME then sandra ?
If you are angry about our support conditions, it is no reason to blame me or our company. ***you pretended to be "sincere" didnt you. so why havent you answered the last mail PROPERLY ?
I don't mind about my english, since I am not a native speaker too. ***your #written# english is perfectly good enough sandra, but you have a big EGO problem, in that you wont admit that anyone other than you could be right. Its the SPOKEN english of your spanish guys on the PHONE that is hopeless. dont you know the difference between writing and speaking yet ? "blurp it in de blobby" apparently meant "put it in the floppy".
We will not lay-off any of our staff, just because they are not native speakers in english. ***you dont have to be a native speaker, but you DO have to be understandable, and NOT full of incessant egotistic arguments. do you know what "incessant" means ?
That would be very ignorant. ***well you already are, so again whats the difference ?
Yours sincerely, Sandra Wiegratz ***ah, youre being "sincere" again, but STILL not being of any USE ! you remind me of Hitler, he was "sincere" wasnt he. now be a good girl, and go back to the last mail and answer it PROPERLY, sentence by sentence. thank you.
Stop being a knob and become an IT professional. -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Kiam-Laine [mailto:kamanism@ntlworld.com] Sent: 24 November 2004 19:50 To: Suse 64 newsList Subject: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com !
we will not communicate on such a level with you. ***well thats not a surprise, since so far "your company" have refused to communicate on ANY level, so what difference has occured ? you have spent a LOT (LOT) of time telling me what you WONT do, but almost NO time on a few (probably simple) solutions. So for a "manager" you have failed AGAIN, just wasting time .....
Please take a course in politeness and Netiquett before contacting us again. ***what would be the point of that ? since you would STILL refuse to be of any help ? (dont forget i WAS as polite as anyonelse at the BEGINNING, its only NOW that you have demonstrated your STUBBORN ignorance that i Reflect your own covert mannerisms). you know what "covert" means ?
AND even if i pay for your "Advanced Support", you still say "we will take the money but NOT guarantee to be of any use" is your "company" typical of german software support ? AND after experiencing the appalling low level of your general intelligences, who would expect you to be able to solve anything anyway ? after all youre "only a distributor" as you just told me. ***so you are tricking people into buying your OS on the pretence of being helpful - when you simply are not. Your leaflet says "we will gladly provide assistance", so why are you not "glad" to hear from ME then sandra ?
If you are angry about our support conditions, it is no reason to blame me or our company. ***you pretended to be "sincere" didnt you. so why havent you answered the last mail PROPERLY ?
I don't mind about my english, since I am not a native speaker too. ***your #written# english is perfectly good enough sandra, but you have a big EGO problem, in that you wont admit that anyone other than you could be right. Its the SPOKEN english of your spanish guys on the PHONE that is hopeless. dont you know the difference between writing and speaking yet ? "blurp it in de blobby" apparently meant "put it in the floppy".
We will not lay-off any of our staff, just because they are not native speakers in english. ***you dont have to be a native speaker, but you DO have to be understandable, and NOT full of incessant egotistic arguments. do you know what "incessant" means ?
That would be very ignorant. ***well you already are, so again whats the difference ?
Yours sincerely, Sandra Wiegratz ***ah, youre being "sincere" again, but STILL not being of any USE ! you remind me of Hitler, he was "sincere" wasnt he. now be a good girl, and go back to the last mail and answer it PROPERLY, sentence by sentence. thank you.
Marshall Kiam-Laine schrieb:
you remind me of Hitler
What a complete and utter insult! And you still expect any kind of help? You just made a complete fool of yourself and shed a very bad light on education in UK. Europe is still *far* away, right? killfile++, W
The rest of the UK is okay! -----Original Message----- From: Willibald Krenn [mailto:Willibald.Krenn@gmx.at] Sent: 24 November 2004 20:51 To: Marshall Kiam-Laine Cc: Suse 64 newsList Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com ! Marshall Kiam-Laine schrieb:
you remind me of Hitler
What a complete and utter insult! And you still expect any kind of help? You just made a complete fool of yourself and shed a very bad light on education in UK. Europe is still *far* away, right? killfile++, W -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help@suse.com
What a complete and utter insult ! ***yes, listening to suse.com wriggling like Ignorant Fools on the phone for HALF AN HOUR SOLID, was insulting, TO ME.
in england when we BUY something IN A SHOP, WITH MONEY, it is supposed to WORK (we have laws to protect consumers - dont you ?) if suse want to whine afterwards "we are only distributors" and "dont know much about how it works", then DONT sell it with any PROMISE "we will gladly help with free installation support" just distribute it for NO charge and with NO PROMISES, then nobody can complain. ok "bald willy" you sprechen ze inglis ??
shed a very bad light on education in UK. Europe is still *far* away, right? ***must admit id never heard of "bremen" before, - where is it ? was that the bunker where hitler shot himself ? :)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy C (EPoX UK) To: 'Willibald Krenn' ; 'Marshall Kiam-Laine' Cc: 'Suse 64 newsList' Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:52 PM Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com ! The rest of the UK is okay! -----Original Message----- From: Willibald Krenn [mailto:Willibald.Krenn@gmx.at] Sent: 24 November 2004 20:51 To: Marshall Kiam-Laine Cc: Suse 64 newsList Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com ! Marshall Kiam-Laine schrieb:
you remind me of Hitler
You just made a complete fool of yourself and shed a very bad light on education in UK. Europe is still *far* away, right? killfile++, W -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help@suse.com -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help@suse.com
Obviously you're not happy, so go use those consumer protection laws and RETURN the product and get your money back. $$$$ Or better yet, use an OS that works with "everything", like Windows....
-----Original Message----- From: Marshall Kiam-Laine [mailto:kamanism@ntlworld.com] Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:04 p.m. To: Suse 64 newsList; Andy C (EPoX UK); Willibald.Krenn@gmx.at Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com !
What a complete and utter insult ! ***yes, listening to suse.com wriggling like Ignorant Fools on the phone for HALF AN HOUR SOLID, was insulting, TO ME.
in england when we BUY something IN A SHOP, WITH MONEY, it is supposed to WORK (we have laws to protect consumers - dont you ?)
if suse want to whine afterwards "we are only distributors" and "dont know much about how it works", then DONT sell it with any PROMISE "we will gladly help with free installation support"
just distribute it for NO charge and with NO PROMISES, then nobody can complain. ok "bald willy" you sprechen ze inglis ??
shed a very bad light on education in UK. Europe is still *far* away, right? ***must admit id never heard of "bremen" before, - where is it ? was that the bunker where hitler shot himself ? :)
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----- Original Message ----- From: Andy C (EPoX UK) To: 'Willibald Krenn' ; 'Marshall Kiam-Laine' Cc: 'Suse 64 newsList' Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:52 PM Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com !
The rest of the UK is okay!
-----Original Message----- From: Willibald Krenn [mailto:Willibald.Krenn@gmx.at] Sent: 24 November 2004 20:51 To: Marshall Kiam-Laine Cc: Suse 64 newsList Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com !
Marshall Kiam-Laine schrieb:
you remind me of Hitler
You just made a complete fool of yourself and shed a very bad light on education in UK. Europe is still *far* away, right?
killfile++, W
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Obviously you're not happy, ***wow you noticed ! i suppose mike.tierney.com is yet another Linux Consultancy Expert ?
RETURN the product and get your money back. ***no way ! im actually getting interested in linux now, and ill get this thing working WITHOUT any of your stupidities.
Or better yet, use an OS that works like Windows ***youre right, at least XPro DOES work, and installing Drivers is a trivial one-click job, with NO bullshit about "compiling" them first.
***actually sitting up all night Batting the balls back to All you "expert" morons is quite stimulating. well worth the purchase price now i think of it :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Tierney To: 'Suse 64 newsList' Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:35 PM Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com !
-----Original Message----- From: Marshall Kiam-Laine [mailto:kamanism@ntlworld.com] Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:04 p.m. To: Suse 64 newsList; Andy C (EPoX UK); Willibald.Krenn@gmx.at Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com !
What a complete and utter insult ! ***yes, listening to suse.com wriggling like Ignorant Fools on the phone for HALF AN HOUR SOLID, was insulting, TO ME.
in england when we BUY something IN A SHOP, WITH MONEY, it is supposed to WORK (we have laws to protect consumers - dont you ?)
if suse want to whine afterwards "we are only distributors" and "dont know much about how it works", then DONT sell it with any PROMISE "we will gladly help with free installation support"
just distribute it for NO charge and with NO PROMISES, then nobody can complain. ok "bald willy" you sprechen ze inglis ??
shed a very bad light on education in UK. Europe is still *far* away, right? ***must admit id never heard of "bremen" before, - where is it ? was that the bunker where hitler shot himself ? :)
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----- Original Message ----- From: Andy C (EPoX UK) To: 'Willibald Krenn' ; 'Marshall Kiam-Laine' Cc: 'Suse 64 newsList' Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:52 PM Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com !
The rest of the UK is okay!
-----Original Message----- From: Willibald Krenn [mailto:Willibald.Krenn@gmx.at] Sent: 24 November 2004 20:51 To: Marshall Kiam-Laine Cc: Suse 64 newsList Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com !
Marshall Kiam-Laine schrieb:
you remind me of Hitler
You just made a complete fool of yourself and shed a very bad light on education in UK. Europe is still *far* away, right?
killfile++, W
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onsdag 24 november 2004 21:50 skrev Willibald Krenn:
Marshall Kiam-Laine schrieb:
you remind me of Hitler
What a complete and utter insult! And you still expect any kind of help? You just made a complete fool of yourself and shed a very bad light on education in UK. Europe is still *far* away, right?
There is no insult, in hearing people make comments, generalizations and comparisons based on ignorance. If you feel an insult, your no better than he is.
There is no insult, in hearing people make comments, generalizations and comparisons. If you (Bald Willy) feel an insult, youre no better than he is.
***yes ! a glimmer of intelligent philosophy there Orn :) you are too good for this newsgroup, why not take up linux instead, and you may even become helpful one day. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- onsdag 24 november 2004 21:50 skrev Willibald Krenn:
Marshall Kiam-Laine schrieb:
you remind me of Hitler
What a complete and utter insult! And you still expect any kind of help? You just made a complete fool of yourself and shed a very bad light on education in UK. Europe is still *far* away, right?
There is no insult, in hearing people make comments, generalizations and comparisons. If you feel an insult, your no better than he is. ----- Original Message ----- From: Örn Hansen To: suse-amd64@suse.com Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com !
torsdag 25 november 2004 01:33 skrev Marshall Kiam-Laine:
There is no insult, in hearing people make comments, generalizations and comparisons. If you (Bald Willy) feel an insult, youre no better than he is.
***yes ! a glimmer of intelligent philosophy there Orn :) you are too good for this newsgroup, why not take up linux instead, and you may even become helpful one day.
It happens from time to time, but I don't think it happens often enough for me to become a "pro" like yourself. I'm just a poor peasant Icelander, who hasn't moved to the great planes of Rome ... so I haven't grown up to understand that Romans have a greater right to mass murder than someone else. And, I'm so utterly dumb that I cannot find myself to accept the word and doctrine of renounced liars and thieves as truth either. Maybe someday, I'll find myself some religion to kling to that will tell me that I am the "only true son of God" and all the rest are just a bunch of Hitler typs, so that I can watch them all guttet like pigs on TV without feeling remorse. Until then, I'll just remain a poor dumb fisherman or peasant from Iceland. Pardon me.
Örn Hansen schrieb:
torsdag 25 november 2004 01:33 skrev Marshall Kiam-Laine:
There is no insult, in hearing people make comments, generalizations and comparisons. If you (Bald Willy) feel an insult, youre no better than he is.
***yes ! a glimmer of intelligent philosophy there Orn :) you are too good for this newsgroup, why not take up linux instead, and you may even become helpful one day.
@Marshall: If you think that comparing a person living in Germany or Austria to Hitler will not seriously insult this person, you are a very sick puppy. There is no excuse for doing things like this. By comparing someone to Hitler you are implicitely saying that he/she behaves like a Neo-Nazi. You seem to have absolutely no clue what this means to the person... By chance: Did you ever visit a KZ to see first-hand what the Hitler regime did to people? If not, then I would strongly encourage you to do this and get your Hitler-picture right again. If you afterwards still feel the need of comparing living persons to Hitler, noone can help you. @Örn: You ought to know that there have to be some guidelines in conversation and limits in what is allowed and what is not: Comparing someone to Hitler - even if based on ignorance - is definitely one step too far! I see no reason why I should tolerate this behaviour and why I am not allowed to speak up. You really want me to shut up?! There is no joking on that issue. This was my last message on that issue, Bald Willy -- Those who cannot remeber the past are condemned to repeat it.
On Thursday 25 November 2004 20:42, Willibald Krenn wrote:
Örn Hansen schrieb:
torsdag 25 november 2004 01:33 skrev Marshall Kiam-Laine:
There is no insult, in hearing people make comments, generalizations and comparisons. If you (Bald Willy) feel an insult, youre no better than he is.
***yes ! a glimmer of intelligent philosophy there Orn :) you are too good for this newsgroup, why not take up linux instead, and you may even become helpful one day.
@Marshall: If you think that comparing a person living in Germany or Austria to Hitler will not seriously insult this person, you are a very sick puppy. There is no excuse for doing things like this. By comparing someone to Hitler you are implicitely saying that he/she behaves like a Neo-Nazi. You seem to have absolutely no clue what this means to the person... By chance: Did you ever visit a KZ to see first-hand what the Hitler regime did to people? If not, then I would strongly encourage you to do this and get your Hitler-picture right again. If you afterwards still feel the need of comparing living persons to Hitler, noone can help you.
@Örn: You ought to know that there have to be some guidelines in conversation and limits in what is allowed and what is not: Comparing someone to Hitler - even if based on ignorance - is definitely one step too far!
I see no reason why I should tolerate this behaviour and why I am not allowed to speak up. You really want me to shut up?!
There is no joking on that issue.
This was my last message on that issue, Bald Willy -- Those who cannot remeber the past are condemned to repeat it.
I like to support Willibald here. There are still many people alive which suffered a lot, directly and indirectly, because of Hitler. Imagine how somebody feels who lost family members, when they did fight against Hitler (I'm not saying against Germany or Austria, not at all). Some had their (German) fathers / grandfathers killed for simply distributing flyers with warnings against Hitler. I saw grown up men in tears when they remembered it. And now this sick guy names them Hitler. By doing so he shows the same attitude people like Hitler and their friends did and do show.
There is no excuse for doing things like this.
It is an insult. More than an insult. And enough reasons *not* to tolerate it.
you remind me of Hitler, he was "sincere" wasnt he.
You remind me of Enoch Powell. Does that make us all even? (It's quite impressive, getting the Nazi accusation in, before even taking this onto a public email list.) Oh, and the onboard ethernet /does/ work on one of those boards, yes, and should be configurable using Yast. Maybe you need to update your BIOS? (Or is that answer maybe too patronisingly technical for you? If so, I suggest you try Mandrake: they're French, but I believe they prefer to be called 'garlic-smelling, snail-eating, bloody frogs' ;-) Anyway, thanks for sharing. It was a real insight. Dan, in the UK, smelling a bit of garlic at the moment.
you remind me of Hitler, he was "sincere" wasnt he. You remind me of Enoch Powell. Does that make us all even? (It's quite impressive, getting the Nazi accusation in, before even taking
***well done Dan, you made some helpful comments ! (thats more than suse knows how to) i already know that the onboard ethernet works thru XPro, and Yast actually says it is "already configured". BUT, i still cant ping the Router ?? any ideas about that ? as for updating the bios - i know how to do it, but am not convinced thats the problem. its a newish board anyway. what i do *not* yet know is how to "compile" the Linux driver off the mobo CD and get it into "sysconfig" - how would you do that please ? whos enoch powell ? you must be really old to remember him. enjoy your garlic :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Walker To: suse-amd64@suse.com Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com ! this onto a public email list.) Oh, and the onboard ethernet /does/ work on one of those boards, yes, and should be configurable using Yast. Maybe you need to update your BIOS? (Or is that answer maybe too patronisingly technical for you? If so, I suggest you try Mandrake: they're French, but I believe they prefer to be called 'garlic-smelling, snail-eating, bloody frogs' ;-) Anyway, thanks for sharing. It was a real insight. Dan, in the UK, smelling a bit of garlic at the moment. -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help@suse.com
On Wednesday 24 November 2004 22:36, Marshall Kiam-Laine wrote:
***well done Dan, you made some helpful comments !
Well, since you say so - no I didn't you daft Micropuppy! In fact, I was trying to brush you off, along with the smell you left on my nation! Please go and install WierdOS XP and gaze at your happy Tellytubby landscape, and press your vomit-coloured "Start" button. I am not: a. with you b. of you c. in any wish to share the same sunlight as you. Back under your bridge you useless troll.
***well done Dan, you made some helpful comments ! Well, since you say so - no I didn't you daft Micropuppy! In fact, I was
***what is "my nation" ? are you perhaps one of those Millwall football-hooligans we see on the tv a lot. and as for the start button being "vomit-coloured", i seem to remember KDE desktop looks almost the SAME as XP, are you linux half-wits so unimaginative that you couldnt make it look a bit more distinctive ? [ i hope "unimaginative" and "distinctive" are not tooo long words for your "failed GCE O-level" ? ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Walker To: suse-amd64@suse.com Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Dont expect any "support" from suse.com ! On Wednesday 24 November 2004 22:36, Marshall Kiam-Laine wrote: trying to brush you off, along with the smell you left on my nation! Please go and install WierdOS XP and gaze at your happy Tellytubby landscape, and press your vomit-coloured "Start" button. I am not: a. with you b. of you c. in any wish to share the same sunlight as you. Back under your bridge you useless troll.
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