Howdy, I have two boxes running Athlon64s - one with 9.0 (co-located) and the other with 9.1 (home). One utility I have been using on Suse 9.0, Red Hat (various versions), and SGI IRIX is "nedit". It was included in the installation of 9.0 but does not seem to exist in 9.1 (not sure about 9.2). Just wondering "why?" and if there is a Suse RPM that would install on 9.1... Thanks. ......Chuck
On Saturday 06 November 2004 02:25, Chuck Gibke wrote:
Howdy,
I have two boxes running Athlon64s - one with 9.0 (co-located) and the other with 9.1 (home). One utility I have been using on Suse 9.0, Red Hat (various versions), and SGI IRIX is "nedit". It was included in the installation of 9.0 but does not seem to exist in 9.1 (not sure about 9.2).
Just wondering "why?" and if there is a Suse RPM that would install on 9.1...
Thanks.
......Chuck
NEDIT was dropped from the SuSE distribution. 9.0 was the last to have it. 9.1 and 9.2 do not. No reason was given. The few of us NEDIT fans sorely miss it. I now use kate/kwrite, or jedit. Jerry
Jerry Westrick jerry-at-westrick.com |suse-amd64| wrote:
NEDIT was dropped from the SuSE distribution. 9.0 was the last to have it. 9.1 and 9.2 do not. No reason was given. The few of us NEDIT fans sorely miss it. I now use kate/kwrite, or jedit.
A rather trivial Google search gets this: http://www.nedit.org -- Steve Williams "The woods are lovely, dark and deep. steve at .......... But I have promises to keep, http://www........... and lines to code before I sleep, http://www.picturel.com And lines to code before I sleep."
On Saturday 06 November 2004 03:14, Stephen Williams wrote:
Jerry Westrick jerry-at-westrick.com |suse-amd64| wrote:
NEDIT was dropped from the SuSE distribution. 9.0 was the last to have it. 9.1 and 9.2 do not. No reason was given. The few of us NEDIT fans sorely miss it. I now use kate/kwrite, or jedit.
A rather trivial Google search gets this: http://www.nedit.org
The nedit prebuilt binary 5.4 32bit (available at the above mentioned location) works fine on Suse 9.1 64bit. My guess is that nedit is not included in the Suse distribution due to (message from building 5.4): ---snip--- ERROR: Bad Open Motif Version: @(#)Motif Version 2.2.2 This version of Open Motif is known to be broken and is thus unsupported by the NEdit developers. It will probably cause NEdit to crash frequently. Check these pages for a more detailed description of the problems with this version: http://www.motifdeveloper.com/tips/tip22.html http://www.motifdeveloper.com/tips/Motif22Review.pdf ... Also, unless you need a customized NEdit you should STRONGLY consider downloading a pre-built binary from http://www.nedit.org, since these are the most stable versions. ---snip--- So you will either have to use the prebuilt 32-bit nedit, or obtain Lesstif 0.92.32/0.93.0/0.93.12/0.93.18, or Open Motif 2.1.30 and build using that.
On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 08:25:20PM -0500, Chuck Gibke wrote:
Howdy,
I have two boxes running Athlon64s - one with 9.0 (co-located) and the other with 9.1 (home). One utility I have been using on Suse 9.0, Red Hat (various versions), and SGI IRIX is "nedit". It was included in the installation of 9.0 but does not seem to exist in 9.1 (not sure about 9.2).
Just wondering "why?" and if there is a Suse RPM that would install on 9.1...
The 9.0 rpm from ftp.suse.com should work on 9.1. However it tended to trigger bugs in openmotif, it may be better to use a statically linked version with an old motif. -Andi
(various versions), and SGI IRIX is "nedit". It was included in the installation of 9.0 but does not seem to exist in 9.1 (not sure about 9.2).
Nedit uses the motif widget set. Some Motif versions are so buggy it's not funny, and nedit won't work with the buggy motif versions (which seems quite fair to me). Nedit Works fine with openmotif 2.1.30MLI4, last shipped with SuSE 8.0. Nedit WILL NOT work properly with openmotif 2.2.x and randomly crash several times a day. 2.2.x is so shocking even the motif vendor(s) warn against using it. ==> Do not use any SuSE-supplied nedit of 8.1 or later. I pointed all this out to SuSE, but they obviously never cared. Someone at SuSE said they needed 2.2.2 because of xyz, multi-processor or 64 bit etc, I can't remember. Instead of doing the obvious fix for nedit and using a motif which actually works, SuSE tried to find the bug(s) but failed, then decided to drop nedit altogether. No comment. 9.1 still has the openmotif 2.1.30 binaries because some netscape-type browser plugins needs them, but SuSE failed to supply the header files for them, so you can't compile. You'll need to get the openmotif source for 8.0 (or 9.1?), compile that first, then compile nedit.
if there is a Suse RPM that would install on 9.1...
Sure is, properly compiled, all on and for 9.1: http://volker.dnsalias.net/soft/rpm/suse9.1/ I don't have a 64 bit machine so can't make any promises there, but from what I gather on this list it ought to work just the same. It would be interesting to see if the openmotif21-libs-2.1.30MLI4 I used compiles and works on 64 bit. Alternatively, you could get a working binary (static only) from nedit.org. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
* Volker Kuhlmann (hidden@paradise.net.nz) [20041106 07:26]:
It would be interesting to see if the openmotif21-libs-2.1.30MLI4 I used compiles and works on 64 bit.
Judging from the spec file it won't. On Biarch systems like AMD64, 64 bit
libraries have to be placed in lib64, so the motif libs need to be placed in
/usr/X11R6/lib64.
For 2.2.3 it's easy as they use configure and we can thus pass
'--libdir=/usr/X11R6/%{_lib}' in the spec file. If you provide a specfile
that makes this also tuneable for 2.1.30, I'll be happy to try and compile
it on my machine.
I'll compile 2.1.30 anyways just to see what compiler warnings I get.
Philipp
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Philipp Thomas
Judging from the spec file it won't. On Biarch systems like AMD64, 64 bit libraries have to be placed in lib64, so the motif libs need to be placed in /usr/X11R6/lib64.
Ok. Would you be able to compile openmotif manually, install it somewhere, and test whether nedit works with a 64bit-compiled openmotif 2.1.30 at all? Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
* Volker Kuhlmann (hidden@paradise.net.nz) [20041108 21:46]:
Ok. Would you be able to compile openmotif manually, install it somewhere, and test whether nedit works with a 64bit-compiled openmotif 2.1.30 at all?
Nope :( The whole configuration stuff is incomprehensible for me so I don't
know what to change to make the config stuff use lib64 throughout. If
someone does a patch to the stuff in config/cf I could build x86-64 RPMs for
openmotif 2.1.30 and nedit.
Philipp
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