You might want to look at Hornet systems available from www.monarchpc.com I do not know who else sells them. They are small form factor, but with a couple more slots for add on cards. I have not set up a SuSE system with them yet, but am looking at doing so in the not to distant future. -----Original Message----- From: Edwin Heath [mailto:Edwin.Heath@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:42 PM Cc: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] what is best 64 bit motherboard Black, Alain wrote:

I have had similar issues with Shuttle only providing updates for the BIOS of their latest and greatest machines.

It puts me off buying another one of their systems, which is a shame as their idea of nice looking small but powerful systems is a good one. Though the small size has given me a nightmare trying to balance heat, noise and reasonable graphics.

-----Original Message----- From: Edwin Heath [mailto:Edwin.Heath@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:27 AM To: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] what is best 64 bit motherboard

I have a Shuttle SN85G4v2 barebones which worked OKish with 9.1 and 9.2

if I booted with acpi=off. with 9.3 even this didn't work (it refused to boot) with acpi enabled, the system degraded to unusable in 2 days. I've given up on this board as being truly 64bit and gone back to 32bit

9.3 which works fine. I suspect the bios is dodgy.

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