Next SuSE 9.2 and AMD64 laptop
Hello all I could read on the Novell website some news about the next SuSE 9.2 (perso or pro). The address (french pages) : http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/overview.html It should be available on next november. The kernel is a 2.6.8 made in Suse of course ! (2.6.8.1 exactly ?). If you have a look in the previous mails (previous months) about PCMCIA and AMD64 laptops, you will see that there is a problem with PC cards (modem for example) and kernel 2.6.5 (SuSE 9.1). My question is for the SuSE developpers : can you tell if this problem is solved ? I could read in some previous mails that it should be solved in the kernel 2.6.8.0. I downloaded the standard kernel sources but I never compiled it : I prefer to use a SuSE kernel with a SuSe distrib :-) (I did not take the time to do it in fact). thans for your answers Pascal
patheve2
Hello all
I could read on the Novell website some news about the next SuSE 9.2 (perso or pro). The address (french pages) : http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/overview.html It should be available on next november. The kernel is a 2.6.8 made in Suse of course ! (2.6.8.1 exactly ?).
2.6.8+patches and those include the 2.6.9rc2 patch set ;-)
If you have a look in the previous mails (previous months) about PCMCIA and AMD64 laptops, you will see that there is a problem with PC cards (modem for example) and kernel 2.6.5 (SuSE 9.1). My question is for the SuSE developpers : can you tell if this problem is solved ? I could read in some previous mails that it should be solved in the kernel 2.6.8.0. I downloaded the standard kernel sources but I never compiled it : I prefer to use a SuSE kernel with a SuSe distrib :-) (I did not take the time to do it in fact).
PCMCIA should work fine with SUSE Linux 9.2 and I expect that our latest update kernel fixes those also, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE Linux AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
PCMCIA should work fine with SUSE Linux 9.2 and I expect that our latest update kernel fixes those also,
That would be an update about to be rolled out, right? Because I'm still struggling with PCMCIA and 2.6.5-7.108-default. Bjørn -- Bjørn Tore Sund Phone: (+47) 555-84894 Stupidity is like a System administrator Fax: (+47) 555-89672 fractal; universal and Math. Department Mobile: (+47) 918 68075 infinitely repetitive. University of Bergen VIP: 81724 Support: system@mi.uib.no Contact: teknisk@mi.uib.no Direct: bjornts@mi.uib.no
Bjorn Tore Sund
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
PCMCIA should work fine with SUSE Linux 9.2 and I expect that our latest update kernel fixes those also,
That would be an update about to be rolled out, right? Because I'm still struggling with PCMCIA and 2.6.5-7.108-default.
That one should work :-( Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE Linux AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Friday 08 October 2004 02:32, patheve2 wrote:
Hello all
I could read on the Novell website some news about the next SuSE 9.2 (perso or pro). The address (french pages) : http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/overview.html It should be available on next november. The kernel is a 2.6.8 made in Suse of course ! (2.6.8.1 exactly ?). If you have a look in the previous mails (previous months) about PCMCIA and AMD64 laptops, you will see that there is a problem with PC cards (modem for example) and kernel 2.6.5 (SuSE 9.1). My question is for the SuSE developpers : can you tell if this problem is solved ? I could read in some previous mails that it should be solved in the kernel 2.6.8.0. I downloaded the standard kernel sources but I never compiled it : I prefer to use a SuSE kernel with a SuSe distrib :-) (I did not take the time to do it in fact).
you lazybone ;-) It is not much more effort to compile a kernel than to write and read these posts. But there is help already today, you can install the SuSE kernels of the day, which are now 2.6.8.x and they run fine, I do not have problems. And yes, PCMCIA is working. You might still have to modify your pcmcia config file to include the memory and port range.
thans for your answers
Pascal
For those of us not in the know, where are the kernels of the day located? I am getting lots of kernel panics with 9.1 (9.0 worked perfectly on this hardware). Joe On Sat, 9 Oct 2004, Matt T. wrote:
On Friday 08 October 2004 02:32, patheve2 wrote:
Hello all
I could read on the Novell website some news about the next SuSE 9.2 (perso or pro). The address (french pages) : http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/overview.html It should be available on next november. The kernel is a 2.6.8 made in Suse of course ! (2.6.8.1 exactly ?). If you have a look in the previous mails (previous months) about PCMCIA and AMD64 laptops, you will see that there is a problem with PC cards (modem for example) and kernel 2.6.5 (SuSE 9.1). My question is for the SuSE developpers : can you tell if this problem is solved ? I could read in some previous mails that it should be solved in the kernel 2.6.8.0. I downloaded the standard kernel sources but I never compiled it : I prefer to use a SuSE kernel with a SuSe distrib :-) (I did not take the time to do it in fact).
you lazybone ;-) It is not much more effort to compile a kernel than to write and read these posts.
But there is help already today, you can install the SuSE kernels of the day, which are now 2.6.8.x and they run fine, I do not have problems.
And yes, PCMCIA is working.
You might still have to modify your pcmcia config file to include the memory and port range.
thans for your answers
Pascal
On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 03:24:55PM -0400, Joe Landman wrote:
For those of us not in the know, where are the kernels of the day located? I am getting lots of kernel panics with 9.1 (9.0 worked perfectly on this hardware).
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd -Andi
Andi Kleen
On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 03:24:55PM -0400, Joe Landman wrote:
For those of us not in the know, where are the kernels of the day located? I am getting lots of kernel panics with 9.1 (9.0 worked perfectly on this hardware).
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd
Just one information about these: These kernels are mirrored out once a day from our server - and they might be completly untested by anybody (besides that they compile). So, always have a backup handy. The current kotd should be excellent - but I won't promise what happens in two or three weeks... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE Linux AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 10:10, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Andi Kleen
writes: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd
Just one information about these: These kernels are mirrored out once a day from our server - and they might be completly untested by anybody (besides that they compile). So, always have a backup handy.
The current kotd should be excellent - but I won't promise what happens in two or three weeks...
Is there some place where the "good" and "bad" SuSE "kotd" are reported? For most people, it is probably unreasonable to try the newest one, but it might be interesting to try one where early adopters (more expert in these areas) reported no serious issues to give them further testing. Laurent
Laurent GUERBY
On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 10:10, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Andi Kleen
writes: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd
Just one information about these: These kernels are mirrored out once a day from our server - and they might be completly untested by anybody (besides that they compile). So, always have a backup handy.
The current kotd should be excellent - but I won't promise what happens in two or three weeks...
Is there some place where the "good" and "bad" SuSE "kotd" are reported? For most people, it is probably unreasonable to try the newest one, but it might be interesting to try one where early adopters (more expert in these areas) reported no serious issues to give them further testing.
Not that I'm aware of but I'll ask, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE Linux AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 02:06:51AM +0700, Matt T. wrote:
On Friday 08 October 2004 02:32, patheve2 wrote:
Hello all
I could read on the Novell website some news about the next SuSE 9.2 (perso or pro). The address (french pages) : http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/overview.html It should be available on next november. The kernel is a 2.6.8 made in Suse of course ! (2.6.8.1 exactly ?). If you have a look in the previous mails (previous months) about PCMCIA and AMD64 laptops, you will see that there is a problem with PC cards (modem for example) and kernel 2.6.5 (SuSE 9.1). My question is for the SuSE developpers : can you tell if this problem is solved ? I could read in some previous mails that it should be solved in the kernel 2.6.8.0. I downloaded the standard kernel sources but I never compiled it : I prefer to use a SuSE kernel with a SuSe distrib :-) (I did not take the time to do it in fact).
you lazybone ;-) It is not much more effort to compile a kernel than to write and read these posts.
But there is help already today, you can install the SuSE kernels of the day, which are now 2.6.8.x and they run fine, I do not have problems.
Which reminds me, the last time I tried compiling 2.6.8.1 with x86-64.org patches applied, I was unable to get 32bit apps(tried firefox, OOo, and a couple of games like ET) to connect to the X server without "xhost +"!! I don't have an exact error message(rolled back to 2.6.7, frustrated me to no end until I realized that I've changed nothing more since the last reboot than the kernel, not even the nvidia driver), it was something with "connection refused" and "xlib: no protocol specified" :)
And yes, PCMCIA is working.
You might still have to modify your pcmcia config file to include the memory and port range.
thans for your answers
Pascal
On Saturday 09 October 2004 07:45, Sergei Klink wrote:
On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 02:06:51AM +0700, Matt T. wrote: ...[snip]...
But there is help already today, you can install the SuSE kernels of the day, which are now 2.6.8.x and they run fine, I do not have problems.
Which reminds me, the last time I tried compiling 2.6.8.1 with x86-64.org patches applied, I was unable to get 32bit apps(tried firefox, OOo, and a couple of games like ET) to connect to the X server without "xhost +"!!
I used vanilla kernels to complie, and no problem. recent SuSE kernels I did not compile (yet), because the kotd I grabbed is working fine for me.
I don't have an exact error message(rolled back to 2.6.7, frustrated me to no end until I realized that I've changed nothing more since the last reboot than the kernel, not even the nvidia driver), it was something with "connection refused" and "xlib: no protocol specified" :)
for your games, that may be it: "not even the nvidia driver". A new kernel usually means you need also to reinstall the nvidia driver. It is a kernel module, so it is kernel specific.
And yes, PCMCIA is working.
You might still have to modify your pcmcia config file to include the memory and port range.
thans for your answers
Pascal
On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 02:28:07PM +0700, Matt T. wrote:
On Saturday 09 October 2004 07:45, Sergei Klink wrote:
On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 02:06:51AM +0700, Matt T. wrote: ...[snip]...
But there is help already today, you can install the SuSE kernels of the day, which are now 2.6.8.x and they run fine, I do not have problems.
Which reminds me, the last time I tried compiling 2.6.8.1 with x86-64.org patches applied, I was unable to get 32bit apps(tried firefox, OOo, and a couple of games like ET) to connect to the X server without "xhost +"!!
I used vanilla kernels to complie, and no problem. recent SuSE kernels I did not compile (yet), because the kotd I grabbed is working fine for me.
I don't think I can use vanilla kernels yet, I need agpgart support(nforce3).
I don't have an exact error message(rolled back to 2.6.7, frustrated me to no end until I realized that I've changed nothing more since the last reboot than the kernel, not even the nvidia driver), it was something with "connection refused" and "xlib: no protocol specified" :)
for your games, that may be it: "not even the nvidia driver". A new kernel usually means you need also to reinstall the nvidia driver. It is a kernel module, so it is kernel specific.
Like I said, I've changed NOTHING in the setup except the kernel+its modules, and even that was with almost exactly the same config as 2.6.7. I've reinstalled the nvidia driver, and I had 3D working in 64bit games(e.g. tuxracer, armagetron), and in 32bit apps as well, if I did "xhost +" before starting them. Besides, it wasn't only games. I guess now I'll have to reboot(again, it seems they've decided to shut off electricity every day at 5 am for a few minutes) and get the exact error message now...
On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 12:17:24PM -0600, Sergei Klink wrote: --8<--
Like I said, I've changed NOTHING in the setup except the kernel+its modules, and even that was with almost exactly the same config as 2.6.7. I've reinstalled the nvidia driver, and I had 3D working in 64bit games(e.g. tuxracer, armagetron), and in 32bit apps as well, if I did "xhost +" before starting them. Besides, it wasn't only games.
I guess now I'll have to reboot(again, it seems they've decided to shut off electricity every day at 5 am for a few minutes) and get the exact error message now...
Here is a typical one(same error for the rest, whether it's a regular user or root) : :~> firefox Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified (firefox-bin:10263): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: # tail /var/log/XFree86.0.log ... AUDIT: Sat Oct 9 12:22:06 2004: 9771 X: client 19 rejected from local host AUDIT: Sat Oct 9 12:24:06 2004: 9771 X: last message repeated 1 times :~> lsmod | grep nvidia nvidia 5288852 12 :~> glxinfo | grep direct direct rendering: Yes :~> uname -a Linux amd64-box 2.6.8.1 #2 Sun Aug 15 12:42:44 MDT 2004 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Now I do "xhost +" and everything works as usual("xhost +localhost" or "xhost +127.0.0.1" do not help) Any ideas?
Sergei Klink wrote:
:~> firefox
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified
I had the exact same problem after installing firefox 1.0PR as root, though I'm not 100% if it was "No protocol specified" as the erorr on the 2nd line. For kicks, I re-installed firefox in my homedir as me, and that copy works fine. Not sure what did that. This is under Suse 9.1 on my opteron at home.. (YOU'd right after install). I can test for the exact error message again when I get home tonight. -- Mike Marion-Unix SysAdmin/Staff Engineer-http://www.qualcomm.com A 32-bit patch for a 16-bit GUI shell running on top of an 8-bit operating system written for a 4-bit processor by a 2-bit company who cannot stand 1 bit of competition. -Rev. Pee Kitty, on Windows 95
On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 11:46:52AM -0700, Mike Marion wrote:
Sergei Klink wrote:
:~> firefox
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified
I had the exact same problem after installing firefox 1.0PR as root, though I'm not 100% if it was "No protocol specified" as the erorr on the 2nd line. For kicks, I re-installed firefox in my homedir as me, and that copy works fine.
Not sure what did that.
Use "sux" instead of "su" to become root. -Andi
On 11 Oct, Andi Kleen wrote:
Use "sux" instead of "su" to become root.
It's not the installer that did that, it was firefox run as me, after root's install was done. I don't just su to root when I do a GUI install anyway, I ssh root@localhost, which is what I'd done. Firefox installed fine, but when I would later run it as me, it would get that X error.. but when I installed it again as me, into my homedir, it would run fine as me. -- Mike Marion-Unix SysAdmin/Staff Engineer-http://www.qualcomm.com [It's Halloween Kitty gives out raisins] Kids: "Ewwwww..." Kitty: "No, raisins are good for you. Raisins are nature's candy." [As soon as she closes the sliding glass door eggs hit it] Red: "..and eggs are nature's hand grenade. Kitty, don't give them raisins.. it just pisses them off."
On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 03:06:38PM -0700, mmarion@qualcomm.com wrote:
On 11 Oct, Andi Kleen wrote:
Use "sux" instead of "su" to become root.
It's not the installer that did that, it was firefox run as me, after root's install was done.
I don't just su to root when I do a GUI install anyway, I ssh root@localhost, which is what I'd done.
That has the same problem (incorrect DISPLAY/xauth setup). You would want ssh -X
Firefox installed fine, but when I would later run it as me, it would get that X error.. but when I installed it again as me, into my homedir, it would run fine as me.
You will get that error with any X11 program. -Andi
On 12 Oct, Andi Kleen wrote:
That has the same problem (incorrect DISPLAY/xauth setup). You would want ssh -X
Actually, not in my case. I turned on X11 forwarding by default (I hate having to add -X). Had to edit options for root ability anyway.
You will get that error with any X11 program.
You're stilling missing my problem, I think. Root ran and installed firefox just fine. I can still su/ssh to root and run the installed firefox just fine. However, if I try to run that same installation of firefox as me (and permissions for running it are set properly), then I'm getting an X display error. I'll get the exact error tonight, or I'll see if it's a server problem that clears up if I log out and back in. But I can run xmms and open new terms just fine as me. I'll strace it if it's still doing it too. I've never seen an X11 program do this before. Try to just su as root and run something.. yes. But not this set of circumstances. -- Mike Marion-Unix SysAdmin/Staff Engineer-http://www.qualcomm.com Your family are the people who cut you the most slack and give you the most chances. I mean, when Richard Dawson says "Name something you find in a refrigerator" and you say "A dictionary" and the rest of America is screaming "You moron!" at their TV sets, who's clapping and saying "Good answer! Good answer!"? Your family, that's who. ==> Dennis Miller on Families.
participants (10)
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Andi Kleen
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Andreas Jaeger
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Bjorn Tore Sund
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Joe Landman
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Laurent GUERBY
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Matt T.
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Mike Marion
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mmarion@qualcomm.com
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patheve2
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Sergei Klink