Hi Richard, The system you are referring to is the 1u rackmount 325. The new system referenced by Ricardo is a new Dual Opteron desk-side unit called the Intellistation A Pro. This station can come with a choice of Nvidia cards(Quadro Pro 1100 or 3000), U320 SCSI, Firewire onboard, 1Gb Ethernet onboard, DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW. I custom built a dual 246 using Tyan S2885, which is a great workstation, very fast. I have 3 PCI-x SCSI adapters on it and all work great, though a little fussy about PCI scan order on boot. I now have 1.5TB on the system and I/O performance is exceptional as compared with the older Xeon I had. If you are looking for a workstation, either this board, or the IBM Intellstation A Pro are great workhorses. Don -----Original Message----- From: Richard Mixon (qwest) [mailto:rnmixon@qwest.net] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:05 PM To: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan Given you are looking at a workstation, this may or may not help. We had the same decision to make last November/December when buying our application server (Java web apps). We liked the IBM, but the kicker was its 1U rack case only had space for two disk drives. It was certainly more expensive, but not unreasonably so, given IBM's (usually) excellent support. You had to buy an external disk array to expand storage. The lack of drive slots caused us to go with a Tyan Thunder S2880 based system. Although we have built many ADM/Intel boxes, the Opteron/AMD64 is new enough that we decided to let Monarch Computing build it for us. Their assembly/burnin charge is absolutely a bargain - around US $65 if I remember correctly. Given the issues we had with RAID and the SCSI drives, we are very glad we did. We tried the more recent S2882 with buildin SCSI/RAID but it would not work with SLES 8. All in all, Monarch's support has been excellent. I will probably put together our next Opteron test server. However it will be pretty basic compared to our production servers. Still, if you can afford the IBM, I would go for it - you know the video and everything is integrated and works. Hope this helps. - Richard -----Original Message----- From: rrpalma@synopsis.ws [mailto:rrpalma@synopsis.ws] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 7:12 AM To: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan Hello List, We need to acquire a dual Opteron workstation. Our choices are: - Build one ourselves , based on Tyan's Thunder K8W (S2885), with dual Opteron's 250, SATA drives, and nVidia 5950 card - Buy an IBM Intellistation A Pro with dual Opteron's 248, Ultra320SCSI drives, and nVidia Quadro FX 1100 Thanks for your suggestions, _____________________________ Ricardo R Palma SYNOPSIS SA Tel. (+51 1) 275-7523, 275-4708 email: rrpalma@synopsis.ws www.synopsis.ws -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help@suse.com
The german computer magazine c't just published an article about the Intellistation A pro. Conclusion: "loud but fast" The were impressed by the quality and speed. Downsides listed: - very loud - they could use only 3 GB of the 4 GB RAM installed - 10W power consumption even in standby Hope this helps. ...Juergen Am Montag, 31. Mai 2004 21:18 schrieb Pettini, Don:
Hi Richard,
The system you are referring to is the 1u rackmount 325. The new system referenced by Ricardo is a new Dual Opteron desk-side unit called the Intellistation A Pro. This station can come with a choice of Nvidia cards(Quadro Pro 1100 or 3000), U320 SCSI, Firewire onboard, 1Gb Ethernet onboard, DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW.
I custom built a dual 246 using Tyan S2885, which is a great workstation, very fast. I have 3 PCI-x SCSI adapters on it and all work great, though a little fussy about PCI scan order on boot. I now have 1.5TB on the system and I/O performance is exceptional as compared with the older Xeon I had. If you are looking for a workstation, either this board, or the IBM Intellstation A Pro are great workhorses.
Don
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Mixon (qwest) [mailto:rnmixon@qwest.net] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:05 PM To: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan
Given you are looking at a workstation, this may or may not help. We had the same decision to make last November/December when buying our application server (Java web apps).
We liked the IBM, but the kicker was its 1U rack case only had space for two disk drives. It was certainly more expensive, but not unreasonably so, given IBM's (usually) excellent support. You had to buy an external disk array to expand storage.
The lack of drive slots caused us to go with a Tyan Thunder S2880 based system. Although we have built many ADM/Intel boxes, the Opteron/AMD64 is new enough that we decided to let Monarch Computing build it for us. Their assembly/burnin charge is absolutely a bargain - around US $65 if I remember correctly. Given the issues we had with RAID and the SCSI drives, we are very glad we did. We tried the more recent S2882 with buildin SCSI/RAID but it would not work with SLES 8. All in all, Monarch's support has been excellent.
I will probably put together our next Opteron test server. However it will be pretty basic compared to our production servers.
Still, if you can afford the IBM, I would go for it - you know the video and everything is integrated and works. Hope this helps.
- Richard
-----Original Message----- From: rrpalma@synopsis.ws [mailto:rrpalma@synopsis.ws] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 7:12 AM To: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan
Hello List,
We need to acquire a dual Opteron workstation. Our choices are:
- Build one ourselves , based on Tyan's Thunder K8W (S2885), with dual Opteron's 250, SATA drives, and nVidia 5950 card - Buy an IBM Intellistation A Pro with dual Opteron's 248, Ultra320SCSI drives, and nVidia Quadro FX 1100
Thanks for your suggestions,
_____________________________ Ricardo R Palma SYNOPSIS SA
Tel. (+51 1) 275-7523, 275-4708 email: rrpalma@synopsis.ws
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Hello Don, Thanks for your reply. You're absolutely right; that's the IBM I'm referring to. What memory are you using on your S2885? Please pardon my ignorance, but is it right to assume that U320 SCSI is faster than SATA? Regards, _____________________________ Ricardo R Palma SYNOPSIS SA Tel. (+51 1) 275-7523, 275-4708 email: rrpalma@synopsis.ws www.synopsis.ws "Pettini, Don" <don@healthmetrics.org> 05/31/2004 02:18 PM To "Richard Mixon (qwest)" <rnmixon@qwest.net>, <suse-amd64@suse.com> cc Subject RE: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan Hi Richard, The system you are referring to is the 1u rackmount 325. The new system referenced by Ricardo is a new Dual Opteron desk-side unit called the Intellistation A Pro. This station can come with a choice of Nvidia cards(Quadro Pro 1100 or 3000), U320 SCSI, Firewire onboard, 1Gb Ethernet onboard, DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW. I custom built a dual 246 using Tyan S2885, which is a great workstation, very fast. I have 3 PCI-x SCSI adapters on it and all work great, though a little fussy about PCI scan order on boot. I now have 1.5TB on the system and I/O performance is exceptional as compared with the older Xeon I had. If you are looking for a workstation, either this board, or the IBM Intellstation A Pro are great workhorses. Don -----Original Message----- From: Richard Mixon (qwest) [mailto:rnmixon@qwest.net] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:05 PM To: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan Given you are looking at a workstation, this may or may not help. We had the same decision to make last November/December when buying our application server (Java web apps). We liked the IBM, but the kicker was its 1U rack case only had space for two disk drives. It was certainly more expensive, but not unreasonably so, given IBM's (usually) excellent support. You had to buy an external disk array to expand storage. The lack of drive slots caused us to go with a Tyan Thunder S2880 based system. Although we have built many ADM/Intel boxes, the Opteron/AMD64 is new enough that we decided to let Monarch Computing build it for us. Their assembly/burnin charge is absolutely a bargain - around US $65 if I remember correctly. Given the issues we had with RAID and the SCSI drives, we are very glad we did. We tried the more recent S2882 with buildin SCSI/RAID but it would not work with SLES 8. All in all, Monarch's support has been excellent. I will probably put together our next Opteron test server. However it will be pretty basic compared to our production servers. Still, if you can afford the IBM, I would go for it - you know the video and everything is integrated and works. Hope this helps. - Richard -----Original Message----- From: rrpalma@synopsis.ws [mailto:rrpalma@synopsis.ws] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 7:12 AM To: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan Hello List, We need to acquire a dual Opteron workstation. Our choices are: - Build one ourselves , based on Tyan's Thunder K8W (S2885), with dual Opteron's 250, SATA drives, and nVidia 5950 card - Buy an IBM Intellistation A Pro with dual Opteron's 248, Ultra320SCSI drives, and nVidia Quadro FX 1100 Thanks for your suggestions, _____________________________ Ricardo R Palma SYNOPSIS SA Tel. (+51 1) 275-7523, 275-4708 email: rrpalma@synopsis.ws www.synopsis.ws -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help@suse.com -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help@suse.com
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