(Sorry for the top posting, I have yet to figure out how to get Outlook to properly inline post) I'm running 10.0 x64 and have had no network issues. My system is a desktop and not a laptop. The x64 system was a fresh install, but I have a 32bit system that I upgraded from 9.3 (with politically incorrect media players as well). Those players were marked in YAST as do not upgrade. They were preserved through the upgrade and continue to work quite nicely under 10.0. My 32bit system that I upgraded is running MythTV. If you want to re-install the "good" versions of the media players again, I would suggest heading over to http://packman.links2linux.org he even has a YAST repository setup that will plug right in. -Alain -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Jaeger [mailto:aj@suse.de] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:32 AM To: Constantine 'Gus' Fantanas Cc: suse-amd64@suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] MANY-MANY PROBLEMS AFTER UPGRADING TO 10.0 Constantine 'Gus' Fantanas <fantanas@innocent.com> writes:
Hello everybody.
Today (errrrrr, yesterday, since it is now well past midnight and I am still pulling my hair off!), UPS brought me 10.0. With eager anticipation I started upgrading 9.3 to 10.0 on my Presario 3240 laptop (2.2 GHz AMD64 based, nVidia chipset, nVidia GeForce4 440, Go with 64MB dedicated video memory). Now I regret it ever doing this upgrade.
Interesting, I haven't heard about such problems and I'm running 10.0 on all my AMD64 machines without problems.
Below I describe some of the many problems I am facing after the upgrade and then provide what I think are pertinent syslogs.
--What happened to alsaplayer? It seems it has disappeared, even from the repositories!
--Often the cursor does not "grab" when it is supposed to (left-clicking on sliders or window frames for resizing or when attempting to "block" text to be pasted by left-clicking and dragging --I use KDE).
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--The internet connection unexpectedly freezes after about 10 minutes of uptime (it did not do it just before the upgrade and after the upgrade I tested it with a 32-bit system; the ethernet cable and the cable modem seem to work fine with the 32-bit system --running 32-bit SuSE 9.3). This happens even if there is virtually no internet activity. See the pertinent syslogs below. Could this be a kernel problem? 'uname -r' responds '2.6.13-15-default', the stock SuSE kernel.
This looks like a kernel problem of the ethernet driver.
--Shutdown takes forever (maybe over a minute) to commence.
This should be only at the first time.
--Lost ticks are reported in the syslogs, even booting with the 'no_timer_check' kernel directive. (And no, I need ACPI because this is a laptop!) See the pertinent syslogs below.
--DMA and IRQ errors also get registered in the syslogs, as you can see below.
--The upgrade trashed all my "politically incorrect" media players! (I remember that before SuSE was aquired by Novel, it offered, on the
An update removes SUSE Linux packages that are not on the media anymore - this is the default for all cases. The details of the package selection shows this. Leaving some of the libraries might give you a working program either.
installation CD/DVD, rpms for hard-to-install media players. Those were the days!) with some effort, I can tolerate "politically correct" libraries, such as 'xine-lib', if I know what I have to delete and install from other sources. But in my case it insisted on replacing perfectly good libraries, claiming inconsistencies. When the upgrade was done, kaffeine, xine, and MPlayer, which worked reasonably well under 9.3 (with the exception of some --not all-- .wmv files) had been virtually eviscerated. None could play DVDs, or mpegs, or whatever else! None! I uninstalled 'xine-lib', reinstalled 'libxine1', uninstalled and then re-installed kaffeine, and made sure that 'w32codec' was installed, but the end result was the same. (It could be that some packages are 32-bit and some others 64.) At least, if the user has "politically incorrect" libraries and executables installed, the upgrade procedure should make an attempt to leave them alone!!!! Some libraries, such as 'libdvdcss' are not even available in the apt-get repositories and one has to go on a treasure hunt to find them --if he is able to at all. Hear me out, SuSE/Novell! I cannot spend all my waking hours and cut into my sleep hunting for dependencies to get my computer to do the things I want. I am seriously thinking about switching to Mandriva or some other distribution which has all the software I want ready to go. If this had been a friend's computer, most probably I WOULD have gone with Mandriva. (Where is the ease of use, advertised on the box my10.0 came in? Novell has been quoted in the newsmedia about its desire to pernetrate the desktop. How are they going to attract people away from Windows with problems like these? Sure, I am no guru, but I am no novice either.)
--Why does 'lspci' report my video card as '01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go 32M] (rev a3)', while I know it is a *64MB* GeForce *440* Go?
No idea, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126