Novell sponsored training for Ambassadors?
I think it might be a good move if training and certification were offered free to Ambassadors. Something like the Certified Linux Administrator. I think it would be a huge boon to assuring competent and helpful community. Thoughts? Can we harass Novell about this idea? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
The idea isn't bad. Seems very encouraging for ambassadors. However, for those who are unaware, Novell offers a FREE Novell Certified Linux Administrator certificate to those passing LPIC Level I. Regards, -- Nitin K Sookun (aka Ish) Freenode nick: Ishwon Channel: #opensuse FB: http://www.facebook.com/ish.sookun This email has been sent using openSUSE 11.4 & Novell Evolution.
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 11:10 -0700, Roger Luedecke wrote: I think it might be a good move if training and certification were
offered free to Ambassadors. Something like the Certified Linux Administrator. I think it would be a huge boon to assuring competent and helpful community. Thoughts? Can we harass Novell about this idea?
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On 05/13/2011 11:40 AM, Nitin K Sookun wrote:
The idea isn't bad. Seems very encouraging for ambassadors.
However, for those who are unaware, Novell offers a FREE Novell Certified Linux Administrator certificate to those passing LPIC Level I.
Regards, Got a link on that? I don't totally understand. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Hello Roger, Yep, got a link from LPI: http://lpi.org/eng/certification/lpi_and_novell_partnership You can find more info there. Regards, -- Nitin K Sookun (aka Ish) Freenode nick: Ishwon Channel: #opensuse FB: http://www.facebook.com/ish.sookun This email has been sent using openSUSE 11.4 & Novell Evolution. On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 11:41 -0700, Roger Luedecke wrote:
On 05/13/2011 11:40 AM, Nitin K Sookun wrote:
The idea isn't bad. Seems very encouraging for ambassadors.
However, for those who are unaware, Novell offers a FREE Novell Certified Linux Administrator certificate to those passing LPIC Level I.
Regards, Got a link on that? I don't totally understand.
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Le 13/05/2011 20:40, Nitin K Sookun a écrit :
The idea isn't bad. Seems very encouraging for ambassadors.
However, for those who are unaware, Novell offers a FREE Novell Certified Linux Administrator certificate to those passing LPIC Level I.
wich is much more difficult than some may imagine :-) LPIC is very good certificate jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On 5/13/2011 at 12:10 PM, in message <4DCD7407.8080805@gmail.com>, Roger Luedecke <roger.luedecke@gmail.com> wrote: I think it might be a good move if training and certification were offered free to Ambassadors. Something like the Certified Linux Administrator. I think it would be a huge boon to assuring competent and helpful community. Thoughts? Can we harass Novell about this idea?
Roger, I'm intrigued with this idea. I think that offering something like this to our Ambassadors is a great idea, and ask for your help to make this idea feasible. Here's my concern. Since the process to become an Ambassador is very simple [1], we don't want people signing up as Ambassadors simply as a free mechanism to get their CLA. This would create work, clutter and noise to our community. People would sign up and then we would never hear from them again. It would also create extra expense (as in real $) to our community and/or SUSE as a sponsor; money expended without benefit to our community. Help me come up with a workable proposal. How can we offer this to "real" Ambassadors and filter out those who would just abuse the benefit? As you pointed out " it would be a huge boon to assuring competent and helpful community", it would be a great incentive to become an Ambassador and a great personal benefit to the Ambassador (aka resume item). Also by the way thanks for being willing to post the idea. Alan [1] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassadors#How_do_I_join.3F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Le 20/05/2011 19:07, Alan Clark a écrit :
Help me come up with a workable proposal. How can we offer this to "real" Ambassadors and filter out those who would just abuse the benefit?
* after one year of ambassador, we could offer for the said 10 most active ones (may be one or two in each continent) a free LPI exam. Eventually we could ask for a minimum result on the exam (I don't know if the candidate have the net result) - it's not necessary that the ambassador be graduated, but have any proof he really work the exam - it's really a hudge work, but rewarding jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Am 20.05.2011 20:30, schrieb jdd:
* after one year of ambassador, we could offer for the said 10 most active ones (may be one or two in each continent) a free LPI exam.
How would you define "most active"? Yeah, you can say: "Okay. X participated in 94 events this year, he´d done a lot for openSUSE as an ambassador." But at the same point, X just talked to 388 people on this 94 events. Whereas Y participated in only 2 events but talked to more people, let us say, 2441. Which one do you want to give a free LPI exam? Of course, you could say, X, because his work is bigger (traveling, organisation so on....) But at the same point, Y spread the word out better, because he simply get more people on his side by talking to a bigger crowd of new and old users. From my point of view, the question isn´t "Which ambassador deserve such a exam the most?" It´s just "For which ambassador we should pay for such an exam to being secure, that we (as SUSE and openSUSE) will get back something?" And what´s with the ambassador who doesn´t go to conferences or to an user group because he hates to talking face to face to people, but spreads the word out every time he gets the chance too on the internet? By thinking about this, you have to face several issues. But except from my points, I really agree with your idea, because it´s one of the easiest and fairest methodes to forgive such things Kim -- Kim-Dennis Leyendecker openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE HAVE A LOT OF FUN! http://www.opensuse.org | http://www.suse.de Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Le 20/05/2011 20:53, Kim Leyendecker a écrit :
But except from my points, I really agree with your idea, because it´s one of the easiest and fairest methodes to forgive such things
we alreday need to have candidates, taking an LPI is *not* easy, it's a real work (I know, I worked 3 month on it and stopped because in fact it was too far from my needs) taking an exam is approx $150 and 3 month true work... may be we could ask here right now who would be ready to run for such reward (just to have a number)? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On 20.05.2011 21:06, jdd wrote:
Le 20/05/2011 20:53, Kim Leyendecker a écrit :
may be we could ask here right now who would be ready to run for such reward (just to have a number)?
Hey, yea, I am with your opinion. Maybe, we should just set up a location and date for the course and have a look how many people really are interested in an LPI. If there are too many, there's always the opinion to make a qualifier... -- Best wishes, Okuro Okiawa aka Thomas Hofstaetter ### openSUSE Member ### ### openSUSE Ambassador ### ### Member of the openSUSE Marketing Team ### ### Writer of the openSUSE News (Event-Editor) ### ### http://en.opensuse.org/User:Okuro ### ### http://linuxokuro.wordpress.com/ ### ### Private Website: http://hidden-space.at.tf ### -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On 20.05.2011 21:06, jdd wrote:
Le 20/05/2011 20:53, Kim Leyendecker a écrit :
may be we could ask here right now who would be ready to run for such reward (just to have a number)?
Hey,
yea, I am with your opinion. Maybe, we should just set up a location and date for the course and have a look how many people really are interested in an LPI. If there are too many, there's always the opinion to make a qualifier... Why are we talking about the LPI? Rather Novell CLA or CLE. By keeping it to a Novell cert, its going to be easier, cheaper, and more SUSE specific. All of
On Friday, May 20, 2011 12:05:58 PM Okuro Okiawa wrote: these points making it more feasible, cost effective, and specific to our community. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, May 20, 2011 5:11:44 PM Roger Luedecke wrote:
On Friday, May 20, 2011 12:05:58 PM Okuro Okiawa wrote:
On 20.05.2011 21:06, jdd wrote:
Le 20/05/2011 20:53, Kim Leyendecker a écrit :
may be we could ask here right now who would be ready to run for such reward (just to have a number)?
Hey,
yea, I am with your opinion. Maybe, we should just set up a location and date for the course and have a look how many people really are interested in an LPI. If there are too many, there's always the opinion to make a qualifier...
Why are we talking about the LPI? Rather Novell CLA or CLE. By keeping it to a Novell cert, its going to be easier, cheaper, and more SUSE specific. All of these points making it more feasible, cost effective, and specific to our community.
I agree with cost effectiveness and product focused. I am not sure you could jump into CLA or CLE without a basic Linux training as LPI-C. Maybe it's possible. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | openSUSE Linux Ambassador Panama openSUSE 11.4 | KDE 4.6.00 release 6 | Mesa 3D-Nouveau Gallium 7.10 video drivers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 20 May 2011 22:45:13 Ricardo Chung wrote:
On Friday, May 20, 2011 5:11:44 PM Roger Luedecke wrote:
On Friday, May 20, 2011 12:05:58 PM Okuro Okiawa wrote:
On 20.05.2011 21:06, jdd wrote:
Le 20/05/2011 20:53, Kim Leyendecker a écrit :
may be we could ask here right now who would be ready to run for such reward (just to have a number)?
Hey,
yea, I am with your opinion. Maybe, we should just set up a location and date for the course and have a look how many people really are interested in an LPI. If there are too many, there's always the opinion to make a qualifier...
Why are we talking about the LPI? Rather Novell CLA or CLE. By keeping it to a Novell cert, its going to be easier, cheaper, and more SUSE specific. All of these points making it more feasible, cost effective, and specific to our community.
I agree with cost effectiveness and product focused. I am not sure you could jump into CLA or CLE without a basic Linux training as LPI-C. Maybe it's possible.
it is.
Regards,
Am 20.05.2011 21:06, schrieb jdd:
Le 20/05/2011 20:53, Kim Leyendecker a écrit :
But except from my points, I really agree with your idea, because it´s one of the easiest and fairest methodes to forgive such things
we alreday need to have candidates, taking an LPI is *not* easy, it's a real work (I know, I worked 3 month on it and stopped because in fact it was too far from my needs) taking an exam is approx $150 and 3 month true work...
may be we could ask here right now who would be ready to run for such reward (just to have a number)?
jdd
Hm, maybe we can do it via news.o.o. Just doing a little "competition". We announce in news.o.o that SUSE will forgive these exams for free (Did I understood it right?) and that interested people can sign up for it now. The only condition is, that they have to be an active ambassador (or become one, it´s maybe a great change to hire new ambassadors). The candidates promote openSUSE as usual, but they write down every event they visited and every big thing the´re proud of. In the end, a board compare the results and choose the winner/winners. -- Kim-Dennis Leyendecker openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE HAVE A LOT OF FUN! http://www.opensuse.org | http://www.suse.de Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 20 May 2011 19:07:59 Alan Clark wrote:
On 5/13/2011 at 12:10 PM, in message <4DCD7407.8080805@gmail.com>, Roger
Luedecke <roger.luedecke@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it might be a good move if training and certification were offered free to Ambassadors. Something like the Certified Linux Administrator. I think it would be a huge boon to assuring competent and helpful community. Thoughts? Can we harass Novell about this idea?
Roger,
I'm intrigued with this idea. I think that offering something like this to our Ambassadors is a great idea, and ask for your help to make this idea feasible.
Here's my concern. Since the process to become an Ambassador is very simple [1], we don't want people signing up as Ambassadors simply as a free mechanism to get their CLA. This would create work, clutter and noise to our community. People would sign up and then we would never hear from them again. It would also create extra expense (as in real $) to our community and/or SUSE as a sponsor; money expended without benefit to our community.
We already have (or at least, had) people sign up as ambassador and not doing anything, so yes, there is a real concern. Moreover, CLA is not useful for everyone. Last but not least, the last thing in the world I want is to tell some ambassadors "you're doing enough work" and others "you're not doing enough".
Help me come up with a workable proposal. How can we offer this to "real" Ambassadors and filter out those who would just abuse the benefit?
As you pointed out " it would be a huge boon to assuring competent and helpful community", it would be a great incentive to become an Ambassador and a great personal benefit to the Ambassador (aka resume item).
Agreed, it has real benefits. JDD's idea to give a limited number of most active ambassadors the exam makes a lot of sense. As Kim noted, it would be very hard to pick the top 10 active ambassadors, so I propose to use a different way of picking people: - we define a minimum-criterium like "must have been ambassador for 3 months and gone to at least 3 events and send in a report from at least 2 of those" kinf of thing - then anyone who fits the criteria can sign in on a lottery and the lucky 10 winners get their exam... That way, we ensure we don't have people who just join as ambassador for this program; but we don't have to do the complex ranking of 'most active ambassadors'. And we make sure only people who are interested get the exam. How feasible is this: You can probably build a way of 'subscribing to the lottery' on connect; you can simply only check the winners, see if they fit the criteria. If one of them doesn't, pick another person from the pool. That way, you only have to check a limited number of people. To do this, we need to do a few things: * figure out how feasible this is from SUSE's perspective: how expensive is it? Can it be done online? etc. I hope Alan can tell us that. * Then we need to come up with a reasonable list of criteria. It is a real bikeshedding thing and we can discuss such a list for ages so I'm inclined to simply call AJ, talk 10 minutes with him and decide on a list of criteria... But we can also ask for example Kim, JDD, chuck and Kostas to talk to Alan and the 5 of em come up with a good set of criteria. Don't start a list-wide discussion as it'll never end. We already make me wonder sometimes how incredibly successful our marketing would be if we wrote as much marketing texts as we wrote emails but unfortunately we don't :( * We need to ask the connect ppl if we can use connect for the lottery thing. * then simply make sure we have say 10 slots for CLA; tell the ambassadors to subscribe to the lotterly (if they fit the criteria); and do it.
Also by the way thanks for being willing to post the idea.
Alan
[1] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassadors#How_do_I_join.3F
Le 23/05/2011 10:12, Jos Poortvliet a écrit :
* Then we need to come up with a reasonable list of criteria. It is a real bikeshedding thing and we can discuss such a list for ages so I'm inclined to simply call AJ, talk 10 minutes with him and decide on a list of criteria... But we can also ask for example Kim, JDD, chuck and Kostas to talk to Alan and the 5 of em come up with a good set of criteria. Don't start a list-wide discussion as it'll never end. We already make me wonder sometimes how incredibly successful our marketing would be if we wrote as much marketing texts as we wrote emails but unfortunately we don't :(
It's probably important to have a localization criteria: have rewarded ambassadors in several parts of the world. If we have 10 prices, give 2 on Europe, 2 on north america, 2 on south america, 2 in india and 2 in asia (just examples) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
If we have 10 prices, give 2 on Europe, 2 on north america, 2 on south america, 2 in india and 2 in asia (just examples) True, that is a good point. We can choose by lottery but should indeed have a
On Monday 23 May 2011 10:19:46 jdd wrote: divison by region.
On 05/23/2011 01:27 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
If we have 10 prices, give 2 on Europe, 2 on north america, 2 on south america, 2 in india and 2 in asia (just examples) True, that is a good point. We can choose by lottery but should indeed have a
On Monday 23 May 2011 10:19:46 jdd wrote: divison by region.
I'm not in favor of. If there's really 30 ambassadors in one region, and 28 of them are really active, I don't want to squeeze them in favor of 2 others who perhaps has not done so much ... Sorry it's not fair play. And pretty nothing will be. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On 05/23/2011 01:27 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Monday 23 May 2011 10:19:46 jdd wrote:
If we have 10 prices, give 2 on Europe, 2 on north america, 2 on south america, 2 in india and 2 in asia (just examples)
True, that is a good point. We can choose by lottery but should indeed have a divison by region.
I'm not in favor of. If there's really 30 ambassadors in one region, and 28 of them are really active, I don't want to squeeze them in favor of 2 others who perhaps has not done so much ...
Sorry it's not fair play. And pretty nothing will be. Well, that's the key. It is impossible to do this really fair. That's why I
On Monday 23 May 2011 21:13:39 Bruno Friedmann wrote: propose to do a lottery-type thing... But it also simply depends on what we can do in terms of resources. Can we hand out 5 trainings? 50? That makes a lot of difference. And it also depends on us being able to do this on a regular basis or not. If we can do it really as part of the ambassador program, we need to think VERY hard about how to do it in a fair way, keeping out people who just become ambassador for this training (which, depending on how expensive it is, might not even be such an issue). But if we can only do this once, we can simply do a lottery with some reasonable requirements like suggested and otherwise don't make a big fuss about it. People then won't have a chance to join BECAUSE we do this...
On 05/23/2011 10:24 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 05/23/2011 01:27 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Monday 23 May 2011 10:19:46 jdd wrote:
If we have 10 prices, give 2 on Europe, 2 on north america, 2 on south america, 2 in india and 2 in asia (just examples)
True, that is a good point. We can choose by lottery but should indeed have a divison by region.
I'm not in favor of. If there's really 30 ambassadors in one region, and 28 of them are really active, I don't want to squeeze them in favor of 2 others who perhaps has not done so much ...
Sorry it's not fair play. And pretty nothing will be. Well, that's the key. It is impossible to do this really fair. That's why I
On Monday 23 May 2011 21:13:39 Bruno Friedmann wrote: propose to do a lottery-type thing... But it also simply depends on what we can do in terms of resources. Can we hand out 5 trainings? 50? That makes a lot of difference.
And it also depends on us being able to do this on a regular basis or not. If we can do it really as part of the ambassador program, we need to think VERY hard about how to do it in a fair way, keeping out people who just become ambassador for this training (which, depending on how expensive it is, might not even be such an issue).
But if we can only do this once, we can simply do a lottery with some reasonable requirements like suggested and otherwise don't make a big fuss about it. People then won't have a chance to join BECAUSE we do this...
Notwithstanding all of us already certified, what we will propose as a replacement ? :-) -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 24 May 2011 07:17:56 Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 05/23/2011 10:24 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Monday 23 May 2011 21:13:39 Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 05/23/2011 01:27 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Monday 23 May 2011 10:19:46 jdd wrote:
If we have 10 prices, give 2 on Europe, 2 on north america, 2 on south america, 2 in india and 2 in asia (just examples)
True, that is a good point. We can choose by lottery but should indeed have a divison by region.
I'm not in favor of. If there's really 30 ambassadors in one region, and 28 of them are really active, I don't want to squeeze them in favor of 2 others who perhaps has not done so much ...
Sorry it's not fair play. And pretty nothing will be.
Well, that's the key. It is impossible to do this really fair. That's why I propose to do a lottery-type thing... But it also simply depends on what we can do in terms of resources. Can we hand out 5 trainings? 50? That makes a lot of difference.
And it also depends on us being able to do this on a regular basis or not. If we can do it really as part of the ambassador program, we need to think VERY hard about how to do it in a fair way, keeping out people who just become ambassador for this training (which, depending on how expensive it is, might not even be such an issue).
But if we can only do this once, we can simply do a lottery with some reasonable requirements like suggested and otherwise don't make a big fuss about it. People then won't have a chance to join BECAUSE we do this...
Notwithstanding all of us already certified, what we will propose as a replacement ?
me no undertandie ?!? You mean what do we do with those who are already certified? They shouldn't subscribe to the lottery as they don't want/need it, just like the people who don't WANT to spend a few weeks working hard to get the certification (if I was a volunteer dutch ambassador I wouldn't be interested either, IT is not my business).
:-)
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 24 May 2011 07:17:56 Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 05/23/2011 10:24 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Monday 23 May 2011 21:13:39 Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 05/23/2011 01:27 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Monday 23 May 2011 10:19:46 jdd wrote:
If we have 10 prices, give 2 on Europe, 2 on north america, 2 on south america, 2 in india and 2 in asia (just examples)
True, that is a good point. We can choose by lottery but should indeed have a divison by region.
I'm not in favor of. If there's really 30 ambassadors in one region, and 28 of them are really active, I don't want to squeeze them in favor of 2 others who perhaps has not done so much ...
Sorry it's not fair play. And pretty nothing will be.
Well, that's the key. It is impossible to do this really fair. That's why I propose to do a lottery-type thing... But it also simply depends on what we can do in terms of resources. Can we hand out 5 trainings? 50? That makes a lot of difference.
And it also depends on us being able to do this on a regular basis or not. If we can do it really as part of the ambassador program, we need to think VERY hard about how to do it in a fair way, keeping out people who just become ambassador for this training (which, depending on how expensive it is, might not even be such an issue).
But if we can only do this once, we can simply do a lottery with some reasonable requirements like suggested and otherwise don't make a big fuss about it. People then won't have a chance to join BECAUSE we do this...
Notwithstanding all of us already certified, what we will propose as a replacement ?
me no undertandie ?!? You mean what do we do with those who are already certified? They shouldn't subscribe to the lottery as they don't want/need it, just like the people who don't WANT to spend a few weeks working hard to get the certification (if I was a volunteer dutch ambassador I wouldn't be interested either, IT is not my business).
:-)
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On 05/24/2011 12:21 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Tuesday 24 May 2011 07:17:56 Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 05/23/2011 10:24 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Monday 23 May 2011 21:13:39 Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 05/23/2011 01:27 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Monday 23 May 2011 10:19:46 jdd wrote:
If we have 10 prices, give 2 on Europe, 2 on north america, 2 on south america, 2 in india and 2 in asia (just examples)
True, that is a good point. We can choose by lottery but should indeed have a divison by region.
I'm not in favor of. If there's really 30 ambassadors in one region, and 28 of them are really active, I don't want to squeeze them in favor of 2 others who perhaps has not done so much ...
Sorry it's not fair play. And pretty nothing will be.
Well, that's the key. It is impossible to do this really fair. That's why I propose to do a lottery-type thing... But it also simply depends on what we can do in terms of resources. Can we hand out 5 trainings? 50? That makes a lot of difference.
And it also depends on us being able to do this on a regular basis or not. If we can do it really as part of the ambassador program, we need to think VERY hard about how to do it in a fair way, keeping out people who just become ambassador for this training (which, depending on how expensive it is, might not even be such an issue).
But if we can only do this once, we can simply do a lottery with some reasonable requirements like suggested and otherwise don't make a big fuss about it. People then won't have a chance to join BECAUSE we do this...
Notwithstanding all of us already certified, what we will propose as a replacement ?
me no undertandie ?!? You mean what do we do with those who are already certified? They shouldn't subscribe to the lottery as they don't want/need it, just like the people who don't WANT to spend a few weeks working hard to get the certification (if I was a volunteer dutch ambassador I wouldn't be interested either, IT is not my business).
:-)
what I mean, is getting a voucher for a 150$ exam if I'm ambassador could be cool. But if the prize you propose has no interest for me due to the fact I already get those certifications can I have the 150$ equivalent (books etc...) I'm asking myself why can they work for nothing ? Please don't reply I know the answer :D -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
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