2011/11/2 Jos Poortvliet :

On 01.11.2011 Kim wrote:

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Am 01.11.2011 16:05, schrieb Jan Krings:

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Hey Geekos,

I just read an Online-Interview with Linus Torvalds in a big German Newspaper "Die Zeit". http://www.zeit.de/digital/internet/2011-11/linux-thorvalds-intervi ew

He said on the question which Distribution he use:

"That may change, but right now I'm using Fedora 14, Fedora 15 is such a disaster ... OpenSUSE is possibly my next choice. Suse I used ten years ago and then I someday switched to Fedora. Now I could go back to Suse, but I could also go over to Debian. Debian is the only distribution that I've never really used. We will see."

Doesn´t surprise me that much, actually. Linus said that he used Red Hat Linux at work and SuSE at home, this changed to only Fedora when he had left Transmeta and worked from his home in Santa Clara and since 2004 Portland.

He also told Pro-Linux that for him (and his family) only 2 distributions fit his/there needs. These two were Fedora and openSUSE.

I, in my humble opinion, would suggest openSUSE (of course) to him, but I can´t understand what´s wrong with Fedora 15? That´s including GNOME 3 instead of GNOME 2? Hey, that´s Fedora, progressive to the bones (i´m not saying that´s bad....), so what do you expect?

I would love seeing him using openSUSE (which he will, I guess, we all now his opinion about Debian (stupid exercise)).

Anyway, we should stay on this story. I would love to interview him about that. Maybe we should contact him? I´d love to publish an article about him and his opinion about openSUSE.

If he moves to openSUSE we surely should!

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             --kdl

I volunteer to interview him for openSUSE, it would be great promoting material for 12.1 to make him a short(5-10 questions) interview I think. -- http://opensuse.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://own.opensuse.gr http://warlordfff.tk me I am not me ------- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/02/2011 06:05 AM, Sankar P wrote:

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On 11/2/2011 at 09:18 AM, in message , Kostas Koudaras wrote: 2011/11/2 Jos Poortvliet : On 01.11.2011 Kim wrote: Am 01.11.2011 16:05, schrieb Jan Krings:

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Hey Geekos,

I just read an Online-Interview with Linus Torvalds in a big German Newspaper "Die Zeit". http://www.zeit.de/digital/internet/2011-11/linux-thorvalds-intervi ew

He said on the question which Distribution he use:

"That may change, but right now I'm using Fedora 14, Fedora 15 is such a disaster ... OpenSUSE is possibly my next choice. Suse I used ten years ago and then I someday switched to Fedora. Now I could go back to Suse, but I could also go over to Debian. Debian is the only distribution that I've never really used. We will see."

Doesn´t surprise me that much, actually. Linus said that he used Red Hat Linux at work and SuSE at home, this changed to only Fedora when he had left Transmeta and worked from his home in Santa Clara and since 2004 Portland.

He also told Pro-Linux that for him (and his family) only 2 distributions fit his/there needs. These two were Fedora and openSUSE.

I, in my humble opinion, would suggest openSUSE (of course) to him, but I can´t understand what´s wrong with Fedora 15? That´s including GNOME 3 instead of GNOME 2? Hey, that´s Fedora, progressive to the bones (i´m not saying that´s bad....), so what do you expect?

I would love seeing him using openSUSE (which he will, I guess, we all now his opinion about Debian (stupid exercise)).

Anyway, we should stay on this story. I would love to interview him about that. Maybe we should contact him? I´d love to publish an article about him and his opinion about openSUSE.

If he moves to openSUSE we surely should!

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--kdl

I volunteer to interview him for openSUSE, it would be great promoting material for 12.1 to make him a short(5-10 questions) interview I think.

I do not want to sound like a bike shedder. But I believe he may not be interested in giving an interview about "Switching to openSUSE". For most of the kernel developers, the distro is just a convenient way to get some userspace applications which they don't want to build from source (say LibreOffice). In case of Linus, he is happy with Alpine, micro-emacs (built from source), git, xterm etc. So, the distro may not matter much for him. However, what we can do is, we can try to get some PR for Tumbleweed based on Linus' experience. We can try to understand from him what he feels about the rolling release of openSUSE and how he thinks it may be useful for Kernel development etc. My 2 cents.

Sankar

I agree with Sankar, and in my opinion this kind of interview and advertising is kinda of "double sword". Happy today if he (re)become an openSUSE user, really worried when he left for Gentoo next March. For sure having his feeling or feedback about what he love or hate on openSUSE could only be benefit to the whole project. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+owner@opensuse.org

On 02.11.2011 Stathis wrote:

Στις 02/11/2011 08:35 πμ, ο/η Bruno Friedmann έγραψε:

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On 11/02/2011 06:05 AM, Sankar P wrote:

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On 11/2/2011 at 09:18 AM, in message <snip>

I agree with Sankar, and in my opinion this kind of interview and advertising is kinda of "double sword". Happy today if he (re)become an openSUSE user, really worried when he left for Gentoo next March. For sure having his feeling or feedback about what he love or hate on openSUSE could only be benefit to the whole project.

Can I put some PR on the table? The newspaper was German. SUSE and openSUSE origins are from Germany. So he gave the tech readers what they wanted to read. If the newspaper or magazine was from South Africa, then he could say: "Ubuntu is possibly my next choice".

He said "OpenSUSE is possibly my next choice". Or openSUSE isn't possibly my next choice.

That's my point of view. Who knows?

He, I do. He would never do that because he doesn't give a shit about what people think of him... He just speaks his mind. 100% engineer, en then some. Anyway, about the interview - yes, don't count on him giving an interview. What we can do, after 12.1, is an article about using 12.1 or about tumbleweed, and mention in there that Linus uses it, quoting from and linking to one of his g+ comments.

Am 02.11.2011 06:05, schrieb Sankar P:

I do not want to sound like a bike shedder. But I believe he may not be interested in giving an interview about "Switching to openSUSE". For most of the kernel developers, the distro is just a convenient way to get some userspace applications which they don't want to build from source (say LibreOffice). In case of Linus, he is happy with Alpine, micro-emacs (built from source), git, xterm etc. So, the distro may not matter much for him. However, what we can do is, we can try to get some PR for Tumbleweed based on Linus' experience. We can try to understand from him what he feels about the rolling release of openSUSE and how he thinks it may be useful for Kernel development etc. My 2 cents.

apart from he´s not using alpine anymore, but the GMail-webinterface, I have to admit that I gree with your points. Maybe we should wait a time until he really uses openSUSE and then ask him, about his personal opinion about Tumbleweed or what we can improve. Maybe he will do that on his own, I remember some posts of him to the Fedora devel lists. After a night of sleep, I guess, I´ve thrown away my "Yeah-Linus-will-uses-openSUSE-most-important-thing-in-world-"thinking away and actually think of that a fast done interview will screw him away maybe. Let´s wait and see, what he thinks about openSUSE (i hope that he will use it, or at least give it a try and let us know, what he thinks. We should keep our eyes on our devel-lists and on our bugzilla.) --kdl -- -o) Kim Leyendecker /\\ openSUSE Ambassador, openSUSE Wiki Team DE _\_v http://www.opensuse.org - Linux for open minds -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+owner@opensuse.org