Re: [opensuse-marketing] Special Announcement - Ambassador Travel Funding
2011/7/29 Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.com>:
On Friday, July 29, 2011 11:03:12 AM Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) wrote:
Hello,
Regarding the deadline, it's good to know when the event takes place for the budget. A question-note I have is this:
In Greece we know the big events we'll apply. We don't know the exact day though. We discuss it at our first ambassadors meeting. So the person who will create the page where we can enter the event, have to make space for the month and not the exacd date of the month and also how many will attend to the booth or talk.
What about smaller events that people invite us? An example here was the event we went a day before Christmas in Florina. We decided to go about a week before. So regarding the timelines you give us, we had to know that on October 1st.
Regarding the type of the events or talks, I think more important is the booth staff because we talk to people about our project.
Let's be realistic: We have limited money and thus won't be able to fund each and every event - and we need to find our way with the setup.
We can reserve some money for ad-hoc events - but the money Jos currently has vanishes at the end of a fiscal quarter, so we cannot keep it for ever and thus prefer to spend everything instead of money vanishing...
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Stathis this goes to you mainly, small events like that in Florina( it cost us around 50 Euros each attendant) can be covered by us since we do it for the fun of participation and for the road-trip ;-) Those money I think should go to bigger events, not that I leave those events out necessary, but if something is to be decided quick I prefer consume my time at thinking on how I am going to do a good appearance and have fun than to think about money. Either you can(have the time and money) to do it, either you don't. Anyway I wish that we have only 10-20 active (on events) ambassadors because of the money and now that some money are available to see 153 really active ambassadors and I promise that I will pay all events I will attend from my pocket, but I bet that the main reason is mostly time. Now it is better to think how to organize things at this point and then we talk about details and exceptions. We all need to work harder because we have a great project in our hands and our job is to show it to the world. That is for now Sorry for my probably bad English but I was working the last 18 hours and I am really tired Kostas -- http://opensuse.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://own.opensuse.gr http://warlordfff.tk me I am not me ------- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Le 29/07/2011 22:04, Kostas Koudaras a écrit :
and have fun than to think about money. Either you can(have the time and money) to do it, either you don't.
I see two case where small event cost may be important: if you have many to do and when you are not yet a real experienced ambassador. * If you try to attends 5/6 meetings, spending €50 euros each begin to be much and the expense can be a little more if the distance is longer - this may be solved if you begin to be known as openSUSE ambassador, and the organiser sponsor your travel (and not openSUSE) * If you are not so experienced to be able to make a conference and don't have experience in openSOURCE meetings, any expense can be a stop (don't forget we all have mates and childs also). I think it could be a good idea to make some people come. After that he may feel more closely related to the project and invest more. Helping in a boot is something anybody can do, even not experienced (and it gives experience :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
2011/7/30 jdd <jdd@dodin.org>:
Le 29/07/2011 22:04, Kostas Koudaras a écrit :
and have fun than to think about money. Either you can(have the time and money) to do it, either you don't.
I see two case where small event cost may be important: if you have many to do and when you are not yet a real experienced ambassador.
* If you try to attends 5/6 meetings, spending €50 euros each begin to be much and the expense can be a little more if the distance is longer - this may be solved if you begin to be known as openSUSE ambassador, and the organiser sponsor your travel (and not openSUSE)
* If you are not so experienced to be able to make a conference and don't have experience in openSOURCE meetings, any expense can be a stop (don't forget we all have mates and childs also). I think it could be a good idea to make some people come. After that he may feel more closely related to the project and invest more. Helping in a boot is something anybody can do, even not experienced (and it gives experience :-)
jdd
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Hello, Some comments and questions ... How can we define who or how is an experienced ambassador? Clearly can't be having as reference the number of people attending our conferences/events or DVDs distributed... if so who had chance to organize big events - big means over 700-800 attended - is the most valuable ambassador? Thinking like this can make us to lose those who make a great effort in their own neighborhood, school or work! My vision, not only of the events make a good ambassador! Spread about openSUSE anyway does. Of course events brings the experience of needs ... I used to say ... if you didn't organize anything in your own neighborhood, work, school for openSUSE how can help to co-organizing in other places? Well it's easy to see when it happens... But if don't start how can you be an experienced one? After some time involved in foss communities our investment reduces but never end. The events/conferences that invite us can pay for our trips but that does not change the fact that we still have to invest time and material. It's a lot of money! Maybe on this case Ambassador Travel Funding express just part of our needs. I'm glad to have a program like this. It's indeed a great way to make our community growth, my only doubt is, this is a decision from Attachmate/SUSE as a company, it was an achievement of our openSUSE Board dierctor (thanks suseROCKS ;-) or a combination of these factors? I'm asking because if we want to plan something for 2012 we need to have a guarantee that the change of openSUSE Board in December won't make us to lose this support as it may interfere with the commitments that we will take with events organizers. I would like to say... the community is made up of volunteers and someway seasonal dedication (except SUSE/Attachmate employees and supposed to be the Board) so I'm totally opposite to have people as reference for a long term. I'm here less than a year and I saw many of "references" leaving-away (including here in Brazil) and even in light of this we're tending to repeat! Also... always have lot of good intention when has money involved or a "free trip". Please everybody don't get this agreesive just a sad ponderation! Here... I put myself available as needed to help to keep this program! Izabel P.S. The program should include english lessons :-D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
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Izabel Valverde
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jdd
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Kostas Koudaras