As per Bryen's email earlier I have contacted the Manchester Team at Free software UK and I am attending their launch party. But I don't get away free so I have to give a talk about "openSUSE / Novell / Gnome" Relationship.. Based on the fact I am a KDE User by heart I am looking for tips, ideas and sub topics that I can put together to take promote the gnome side of suse. Any offers? -- Kind Regards Stuart Tanner Bolton Linux 24 Vincent Street Bolton BL1 4SA Tel: +44(0)1204 410474 Mob: +44(0)7868 028028 www.bolin.org.uk Distributing openSUSE in the UK Registered Linux User: 529825 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Am 02.04.2011 16:24, schrieb Stuart Tanner:
Based on the fact I am a KDE User by heart I am looking for tips, ideas and sub topics that I can put together to take promote the gnome side of suse. Well, GNOME is a great alternative to KDE, and you can say, that´s the default desktop of SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop. So, the users know how SUSE/Novell value GNOME.
For openSUSE, GNOME is an important part of the freedom of desktop choice in that way, that you can choose from many desktops or WMs to create your personal system feeling. Tell them, that GNOME is supported equal as KDE by the openSUSE community. How Novell handle it with desktop support, I can´t say, but openSUSE values both desktops equal. I think this is an important point if the listeners want to understand the whole thing. thanks -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker@hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE http://www.opensuse.org Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 02 Apr 2011 20:33:52 Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Am 02.04.2011 16:24, schrieb Stuart Tanner:
Based on the fact I am a KDE User by heart I am looking for tips, ideas and sub topics that I can put together to take promote the gnome side of suse.
Well, GNOME is a great alternative to KDE, and you can say, that´s the default desktop of SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop. So, the users know how SUSE/Novell value GNOME.
For openSUSE, GNOME is an important part of the freedom of desktop choice in that way, that you can choose from many desktops or WMs to create your personal system feeling.
Tell them, that GNOME is supported equal as KDE by the openSUSE community. How Novell handle it with desktop support, I can´t say, but openSUSE values both desktops equal. I think this is an important point if the listeners want to understand the whole thing.
thanks
Kim this is great gives me a lot to be getting on with :) I was wondering what the default desktop was with SLED now i know - I was thinking about Gnome because of Evolution seems to more popular as an alternative to MS Office Outlook rather than Kontact. -- Kind Regards Stuart Tanner Bolton Linux 24 Vincent Street Bolton BL1 4SA Tel: +44(0)1204 410474 Mob: +44(0)7868 028028 www.bolin.org.uk Distributing openSUSE in the UK Registered Linux User: 529825 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Am 02.04.2011 21:50, schrieb Stuart Tanner:
Kim this is great gives me a lot to be getting on with:) I was wondering what the default desktop was with SLED now i know - I was thinking about Gnome because of Evolution seems to more popular as an alternative to MS Office Outlook rather than Kontact. More because Novell bought some GNOME-companies and get a lot more know-how about GNOME.
thanks -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker@hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE http://www.opensuse.org Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
A little of topic question: Is the delay of GNOME 3 to September 2011 true, or just another april fool? -Kim -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker@hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE http://www.opensuse.org Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
APRIL FOOL :D I was at the GNOME Conf and Vincent made a fool of all of us :) On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Kim Leyendecker <kimleyendecker@hotmail.de> wrote:
A little of topic question: Is the delay of GNOME 3 to September 2011 true, or just another april fool?
-Kim
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Am 04.04.2011 03:50, schrieb Manu Gupta:
APRIL FOOL :D I was at the GNOME Conf and Vincent made a fool of all of us:) I simply knew it..... Oh, then I´m looking forward to the release ;)
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On 2011-04-02 Stuart wrote:
As per Bryen's email earlier I have contacted the Manchester Team at Free software UK and I am attending their launch party.
But I don't get away free so I have to give a talk about "openSUSE / Novell / Gnome" Relationship..
Based on the fact I am a KDE User by heart I am looking for tips, ideas and sub topics that I can put together to take promote the gnome side of suse.
Look at our talking points page for a few things. To that I can add that Novell does most of the work on Evolution (it even used to be Ximian Evolution, Ximian being part of Novell), Banshee and other GNOME apps. Novell employs people like Vuntz (gnome release manager and often said to be "father of gnome 3"), Miquel d'icaza (who started GNOME) and many other well known gnomies like Michael Meeks. GNOME is indeed the default desktop of SLED (KDE as a choice) just like KDE is the default on openSUSE and GNOME is a choice there. For openSUSE 11.4, we'll have the best GNOME 2.x implementation as the one in Ubuntu is crippled and changed with Unity and Fedora will have the quite new (and probably weird for many) gnome 3. In other words, if you like your current GNOME 2.x, openSUSE is actually THE linux distribution where you can enjoy it for the next 8 months... We won't ship GNOME 3 until 3.2 which will most likely be the first version to have all the improvements based on user feedback - I wouldn't ship the 3.0 to normal end users (like Fedora does). Now how about you add the arguments above to our talking points page on the wiki? ;-)
Any offers?
On Monday, April 04, 2011 10:23:46 AM Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-04-02 Stuart wrote:
Look at our talking points page for a few things. To that I can add that Novell does most of the work on Evolution (it even used to be Ximian Evolution, Ximian being part of Novell), Banshee and other GNOME apps. Novell employs people like Vuntz (gnome release manager and often said to be "father of gnome 3"), Miquel d'icaza (who started GNOME) and many other well known gnomies like Michael Meeks.
Without regards what is our mostly preferred desktop. We can feel the proud having all those desktop options available from only one DVD with no hassle.
GNOME is indeed the default desktop of SLED (KDE as a choice) just like KDE is the default on openSUSE and GNOME is a choice there. For openSUSE 11.4, we'll have the best GNOME 2.x implementation as the one in Ubuntu is crippled and changed with Unity and Fedora will have the quite new (and probably weird for many) gnome 3.
This is a good clarification most people ignore (the opposite options SLED vs. opeSUSE with default desktop and optional desktops)
In other words, if you like your current GNOME 2.x, openSUSE is actually THE linux distribution where you can enjoy it for the next 8 months... We won't ship GNOME 3 until 3.2 which will most likely be the first version to have all the improvements based on user feedback - I wouldn't ship the 3.0 to normal end users (like Fedora does).
Can we spread the voice about this above (we will ship GNOME 3 until 3.2) ? Best, -- Ricardo Chung | openSUSE Linux Ambassador Panama openSUSE 11.4 | KDE 4.6.00 release 6 | Mesa 3D-Nouveau Gallium 7.10 video drivers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On 2011-04-04 Ricardo wrote:
On Monday, April 04, 2011 10:23:46 AM Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-04-02 Stuart wrote:
Look at our talking points page for a few things. To that I can add that Novell does most of the work on Evolution (it even used to be Ximian Evolution, Ximian being part of Novell), Banshee and other GNOME apps. Novell employs people like Vuntz (gnome release manager and often said to be "father of gnome 3"), Miquel d'icaza (who started GNOME) and many other well known gnomies like Michael Meeks.
Without regards what is our mostly preferred desktop. We can feel the proud having all those desktop options available from only one DVD with no hassle.
GNOME is indeed the default desktop of SLED (KDE as a choice) just like KDE is the default on openSUSE and GNOME is a choice there. For openSUSE 11.4, we'll have the best GNOME 2.x implementation as the one in Ubuntu is crippled and changed with Unity and Fedora will have the quite new (and probably weird for many) gnome 3.
This is a good clarification most people ignore (the opposite options SLED vs. opeSUSE with default desktop and optional desktops)
In other words, if you like your current GNOME 2.x, openSUSE is actually THE linux distribution where you can enjoy it for the next 8 months... We won't ship GNOME 3 until 3.2 which will most likely be the first version to have all the improvements based on user feedback - I wouldn't ship the 3.0 to normal end users (like Fedora does).
Can we spread the voice about this above (we will ship GNOME 3 until 3.2) ?
Of course. And remember, we do have GNOME 3 already as we employ the GNOME 3 release manager (vuntz) ;-)
Best,
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