On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Kostas Koudaras <warlordfff@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't believe that ambassadors actually need something like an LPI degree, Ambassadors are mainly marketing, Talking to people about openSUSE and act like an openSUSE evangelists. How a degree like that will actually help someone do that? I am talking from myself now but I don't see any use of that to an ambassador, a degree in PR would be much more useful I think ;-) It does not harm but it is hardly crucial to an ambassador, under my opinion.
2011/5/14 Chuck Payne <terrorpup@gmail.com>:
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Roger Luedecke <roger.luedecke@gmail.com> wrote:
On 05/13/2011 10:26 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 14/05/2011 01:12, Roger Luedecke a écrit :
Precisely my thought.
if so, they will need this:
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005283
:-) jdd
I believe Novell has their own training materials. Microsoft was distributing a very good C++ book for a while through MSDN, no doubt Novell could work out a similar deal if need be. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Novell/Attachment I believe will not train us. After my many dealing with the Novell Sale Engineer. Many don't like the fact that we are going out there. I had a few ask why I was at a fest and not some SE. Plus, I don't think Novell/Attachment would train the Ambassador unless they could get money back.
Guys remember the Ambassador program a volunteer program.
I agree training would be nice. But, I think we need not look at Novell/Attachment but to our community. I am System Administrator with 15 years on me. I done one training class for an event. I am looking to see what it would take to set up such classes online, but until I get settle in my new job, I don't have time. But I do want to do that, I love to make the openSUSE Day a thing we could do at fest.
The Welcome Team is suppose to mentor and well other ambassadors.
'suppose' ? Does anyone has a problem with the mentoring we are doing? Does anyone disagrees that we are doing mentoring?
We
were talk about having a mentor program too, but it was agree that the Welcome Team would mentor or try to find people to mentor.
The mentoring program idea was also turned down from you too, although I had talk to you about it personally and you accepted at first and then you left me alone with the mentoring idea, and that was the reason that fell on to the welcome teams duties, am I wrong? Does all that undermining to our work from you Chuck has a bottom line? If it is please let me know. If you have a problem with the work we are doing why you haven't spoke to us so far and you are doing it now? We are suppose to be friends here and having fun, not doing politics :-(
So Roger,
if you want or need help, please ask. That goes for all.
Let do this. On this mailing list. Please everyone that is an Ambassador, write down that you like to be train on. I will take that information redo it so that we can put together a list of things you guys feell ambassador need training. Then we will start working on training. Putting things on the wiki, maybe creating PDF or e-books you can carry with you.
Novell/Attachment and soon to be SUSE are our sponsors, but we as a community need take care of each other. Lets teach each other so we can grow as a community. We have the great group people and I think we can do this.
Pup
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Kostas, I am not making any thing politically. Before everyone goes off half cock like they tend to do let me state what I am trying to say. At one point the welcoming team was suppose to ask new ambassadors to work with a mentor. This was agree upon, unless something happen while I was away. The mentors were suppose to be from the same area of the world to help. Beside sending an e-mail welcome, I find that a second e-mail should be since to a ambassador stating that Joe is now a new ambassador can you please mentor them. What I am perposing is to get a list of things that would help the ambassadors and users a like. A training courses, that can help everyone and I am hoping we can get members of the community to help write this. I am not wanting to change the Ambassador program. Is that clear? What I am wanting to do get a list of things ambassadors to start with, that would like to learn so they can better help people. We can offer these course to everyone once we get them into place. This is a big marketing and a big plus for us as a community and as ambassador. I am offer to start this because I been a teacher. I like to ask people like JDD an other who experience (Bruno, who artilce on lizard.opensuse.com) to help on this. I got a lot good response from doing the classes at SCALE, it would be great to state we have e-books and online classes to help grown the openSUSE experience. We need to get pass the handing out DVD, that great to get the software into peoples hands, but as an ambassador we are marketing, sales, and tech support for those that we interact with. So if ambassador like Roger wants help. Let get him help, be it training. Then Roger, once he gets it can tell others, that you know my community gave me help, here are the ebooks and links that help me, and you are welcome to use them. That is why I asked, again I am ask. What do people want to get trained on? As for me, yes you asked, and if you remember, I clearly said, I didn't want to be a mentor because at that time, we had someone that would reject me. And after you ask and I thought about it, I said yes, and what happen. It because a big mess because no one wanted me. So I turned it down. Now, I been ask to help on a group that at one point I thought member of, only later to find out I was that other member got it. I have a list of things I am to do and will. I want to get a podcast up running. nother of my goals this year to to set up a training program for openSUSE ( This top of my list). I have a baby coming, next year I won't be able to travel, so do what I can online and of the community. I am still want to promote as a good ambassador should do. I can say that I am working with a site to see if I can start writing for them on openSUSE. I have to give Jos (No Jos, I am not wanting your job/ or trying to talk bad) credit because one thing he been doing that I think is so great is getting everyone to writing about feature within product, but we need to work on teaching people to use our product as well. Remember, teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a life time. By training our community, we are giving them the tools to succeed So it it clear? One thing that really bugs me about community, people tend to read what they want. I wanted to send an e-mail early about this but, my life been very hard. Now that things seem to be getting better, I am going to push forward with this. Pup -- (678) 636-9678 ----------------------------------------- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux. ----------------------------------------- openSUSE -- en.opensuse.org/User:Terrorpup openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein Register Linux Userid: 155363 Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org