I feel like you went into this with somewhat the wrong expectations. The whole point of this exercise was to take a test drive with MicroOS, a fairly small and still developing project with a small user base and see which parts of it already work well and which don't, to have a starting point and learn some valuable lessons for ALP. And you just did that successfully. You took a test drive and pointed out that the on-boarding isn't very good for a new, uninformed user and that the UI for installing new things is confusing/misleading. That's basically exactly how this was supposed to go. So comparing your test drive for a developing project with your decades long experience with the openSUSE world seems a bit odd. Makes it look like you were expecting this test phase to immediately convince you of the merits of this new approach, which honestly just seems a bit unfair. On July 20, 2022 10:18:21 AM GMT+02:00, Mathias Homann <mathias.homann@opensuse.org> wrote:
I just tried Micro OS as a desktop for ... i admit, not long, maybe an hour, because I just found it to be *unusable* as a desktop for anyone who does not know all the differences between a transactional OS and a traditional Linux OS.
To be frank and outright: While I believe that there definitely is a place for such a thing as transactional OS updates and package installations, that place is not on a desktop. At least not unless the user is actually *told about it* at first login.
I installed µOS as "Plasma Desktop" in a VM, and was greeted after login with a plain Plasma Desktop with almost no apps, and no YaST either. And after finding discover I found that every installation process after the first failed without telling me why.
Yes, I know, transactional, yadda yaddda - but the user needs to KNOW that each install needs a REBOOT (hello, windows 98) to be able to install another application - and the easiest way to be sure that the user knows that is what?
Guess?
Yep, telling them. which µOS does not, as of 20220718.
So - begone for now. I'll have another look in a while(or maybe use it for the kind of stuff where it makes sense, like kubernetes workers or something like that).
If this comes across as a bit harsh: what can I say, that was a bit disappointing after 25 years of (almost) nothing but positive experiences with SuSE and later openSUSE products.
Cheers MH