On Tuesday, 05 June 2012 02:19 Dirk Gently wrote:
C wrote:
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Dirk Gently
wrote: This has nothing to do with that. I was giving the OP an honest assessment of the KDE4 team honoring his request: slim and none.
Honest? Your example in your assessment was wrong as you actually CAN set up your KDE4 desktop to use desktop icons. You always could... you still can. Your explicit example was wrong, and your honest assessment was nothing more than misinformed FUD-mongering.
As for the OPs request, it is easily done using the KDE4 themes. Nothing to wait on the KDE4 team for... just the OP who needs to tinker with his settings since the default openSUSE ones aren't quite what he expects or needs. KDE4 provides everything that the OP needs to acheive his request either right within the UI, or of not in prebuilt themes, he can use the KDE-Look website and other fully supported tools to create his own theme. It's documented.. and has been there all along in KDE4.
Are there issues with KDE4? Yes.. certainly. Are there issues with the Linux kernel? Gnome3? LibreOffice? etc... I think you're pretty safe to say yes to every single one of those.
None of those other software teams have: a) Told subscribers on this list to go screw ourselves b) Lied repeatedly for weeks about the stead of readiness of their project, let alone refusing repeating the lies and stonewalling even when readers of this list noted the lies being pted by the KDE4 team.
And yes, the LIED ... they even admitted it themselves on the KDE website over a year later.
As for anyone who thinks this thread is not productive....
It serves as a warning to all others who might want to emulate the stunts that the KDE4 team pulled... to wit: disgraceful, disrespectful behavior towards the user-base will NOT be forgotten.
Does the KDE4 team have a reputation for being surly and a bunch of liars due to the opensuse mailing list, or due to their own anti-social behavior?
C, If you don't like the reputation you guys on the KDE4 team now have, you have NOBODY to blame but yourselves.
In the future. I suggest you NOT act like a bunch of lying know-it-alls with a "you're lucky to have anything" attitude towards users. In other words, you know... treat users like human beings, not annoying pests.
You reap what you sow, and the KDE4 team spent months sowing nothing more than the seeds of hostility and dishonesty. You made your bed, now lay in it.
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