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Re: [opensuse] two dolphin questions
- From: Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 00:11:23 +0200
- Message-id: <2129042.bU1b9JCf7A@linux-vdb1>
Am Montag, 4. Juli 2011, 16:41:51 schrieb Anton Aylward:
It simply lost its audience, developers and users, since it was never really
good at browsing and apparently not compelling enough for other tasks as well.
There is nobody working against konqueror, just nobody working for it. (I know
there are still some people spending time on khtml etc. but it tends towards
nobody)
That's the thing about things created in people's free time. They get to chose
how to spend their time because they "pay" the time they spend working on
something. Anybody who wants to revive konqueror is free to do so.
Not for me. bookmarks tab was always broken, lots of other issues with the
sidebar like not being able to rename folders, web-browsing buggy, embedded
viewers lacked functionality so I had to open external ones anyway, no
integrated search, not versatile enough regarding sorting and grouping,
crowded toolbars, (settings) GUI and menus, no "information tab but a buggy
hack to get something almost there etc. pp.
But that's me and if it fits your needs, that's perfect, use it, contribute to
it but do not try to make non-konqueror apps konqueror – it will fail by
definition.
See above, it was broken in many ways. And there was simply nobody that cared
enough, so chances are, there are not that many that actually like it as much
as to start caring actively, i.e. contributing. And without contribution a oss
app simply fades out and gets replaced by actively developed apps.
Sven
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The one program that did it all, and in my opinion and based on
questions and observations about Dolphin and reconq that have come up,
did it very well, was Konqueror. it now seems that Konqeror is being
depreciated in favour of this specialised file manager - that isn't as
capable a file manager as Konqeror was named Dolphin, and this web
browser that isn't as capable as Konqeror was named reconq.
It simply lost its audience, developers and users, since it was never really
good at browsing and apparently not compelling enough for other tasks as well.
There is nobody working against konqueror, just nobody working for it. (I know
there are still some people spending time on khtml etc. but it tends towards
nobody)
It strikes me that each might have been better if they had started with
Konqueror as it was about the days of KDE4.1/4.2 and started deleting
stuff. Rather like the sculptor: take a block of stone and remove
everything that isn't the final statue.
That's the thing about things created in people's free time. They get to chose
how to spend their time because they "pay" the time they spend working on
something. Anybody who wants to revive konqueror is free to do so.
I *DO* understand Rob Pikes "Do one thing, just one thing and do it
well" (Rob, like me, is from Toronto and I've met both him and Dennis
here.) But Konqueror *DID* work and worked very well.
Not for me. bookmarks tab was always broken, lots of other issues with the
sidebar like not being able to rename folders, web-browsing buggy, embedded
viewers lacked functionality so I had to open external ones anyway, no
integrated search, not versatile enough regarding sorting and grouping,
crowded toolbars, (settings) GUI and menus, no "information tab but a buggy
hack to get something almost there etc. pp.
But that's me and if it fits your needs, that's perfect, use it, contribute to
it but do not try to make non-konqueror apps konqueror – it will fail by
definition.
Whatever happened to "If it ain't broke don't fix it"?
See above, it was broken in many ways. And there was simply nobody that cared
enough, so chances are, there are not that many that actually like it as much
as to start caring actively, i.e. contributing. And without contribution a oss
app simply fades out and gets replaced by actively developed apps.
Sven
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