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Re: Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Re: broken email list usage and demands that users change to adapt to broken software...
- From: Basil Chupin <blchupin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 16:30:31 +1100
- Message-id: <4CD78AF7.7000208@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 07/11/2010 22:49, Philipp Thomas wrote:
Well, not quite so.
There was a case recently, but I cannot recall now if it was in Britain or America, where the judge made a ruling that using the f-word at a policeman was acceptable because it is now a commonly used words - used frequently in American Hollywood films in fact.
Good manners and upbringing and lack of? Being educated and being a redneck? Intelligence and stupidity?
Not so, not so at all.
My wife belonged to a couple of forums where her posts were disallowed - without any explanation, and one couldn't discuss why they were disallowed. However, one gathered, from how some other posts were written, that the words for she was temporarily "banned" were: "Shitake mushrooms", "skyscraper", "cocktail", and "cackatiel" which we owned. So she ended up writing "Shitake mushrooms" as "S*h*i*t*ake mushrooms" and everything was OK; and so were the other words once she "adjusted" the letters.
Correct.
Earlier this year there was one person who insisted that he had the right of Freedom of Speech as per the American Constitution's Bill of Rights and refused to alter his signature which was absolute bigotry against one particular, world-wide, religion. He wouldn't accept, even though requested to do so, that the American Bill of Rights just simply did not apply to this list - nor did it even apply in some cases brought before the USA courts. He got kicked out from all openSUSE lists for this.
Prior to him, there was a foul-mouthed individual who was banned from these lists but kept coming back under different aliases until, finally, the "system" caught up with his tricks.
I am now wondering if this person has now returned under the guise of "JB" and "John" ("John" is "JB" in disguise if you look at the message headers) and whose language and attitude is almost word for word like that of that banned person serving in US defence forces (last known destination: being re-assigned back to the middle-East). Oh, the brave and intelligent lad was good enough to provide a photograph of himself, saluting the camera in white gloves and marine uniform with snow as the background - I have a copy of that photo.
Which is why I am wondering why this "John" is allowed to keep posting.
Not only that but being given the ability to hide behind aliases and mail addresses/mail systems provided by ISPs is what makes it very bad.
BC
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On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 19:55:24 -0400, "Brian K. White"<brian@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Perhaps they are both distasteful and technically valueless and evenThere are limits to that. For instance such language in court will get
that is useful as a negative example to refer to once in a while.
you fined very quickly.
Well, not quite so.
There was a case recently, but I cannot recall now if it was in Britain or America, where the judge made a ruling that using the f-word at a policeman was acceptable because it is now a commonly used words - used frequently in American Hollywood films in fact.
And where is the border between profanity and
harassment?
Good manners and upbringing and lack of? Being educated and being a redneck? Intelligence and stupidity?
Perhaps it's better to have a little profanityWhere do you draw the line?
"MATSHITA UJ892AS"Of cause that's stupid and you know that.
into
"MAT[* profanity *]A UJ892AS
Not so, not so at all.
My wife belonged to a couple of forums where her posts were disallowed - without any explanation, and one couldn't discuss why they were disallowed. However, one gathered, from how some other posts were written, that the words for she was temporarily "banned" were: "Shitake mushrooms", "skyscraper", "cocktail", and "cackatiel" which we owned. So she ended up writing "Shitake mushrooms" as "S*h*i*t*ake mushrooms" and everything was OK; and so were the other words once she "adjusted" the letters.
It's perhaps not _necessary_ to swear, but it's actuallyNo, it's again a question of abiding to the rules of the medium you've
_counter-productive_ to care about merely seeing it.
chosen to use! It's your choice to not follow them but then you have
to accept that others will kick you out. This is a mainling list with
a clear topic and rules, not speakers corner in Hyde park.
Correct.
Earlier this year there was one person who insisted that he had the right of Freedom of Speech as per the American Constitution's Bill of Rights and refused to alter his signature which was absolute bigotry against one particular, world-wide, religion. He wouldn't accept, even though requested to do so, that the American Bill of Rights just simply did not apply to this list - nor did it even apply in some cases brought before the USA courts. He got kicked out from all openSUSE lists for this.
Prior to him, there was a foul-mouthed individual who was banned from these lists but kept coming back under different aliases until, finally, the "system" caught up with his tricks.
I am now wondering if this person has now returned under the guise of "JB" and "John" ("John" is "JB" in disguise if you look at the message headers) and whose language and attitude is almost word for word like that of that banned person serving in US defence forces (last known destination: being re-assigned back to the middle-East). Oh, the brave and intelligent lad was good enough to provide a photograph of himself, saluting the camera in white gloves and marine uniform with snow as the background - I have a copy of that photo.
Which is why I am wondering why this "John" is allowed to keep posting.
For now roughly 20 years I'm using email and am yet again astonished
how the indirect way of communication makes people use wordings and
behaviour that most wouldn't dare in direct personal communication ...
Not only that but being given the ability to hide behind aliases and mail addresses/mail systems provided by ISPs is what makes it very bad.
BC
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Great Man reaches complete understanding of the main issues; Petty Man reaches
complete understanding of the minute details."
Confucius
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