Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1556 mails)

[Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@xxxxxxx>]

> Either a lot of people miss a function, then it is likely that it will be re> 
> implemented (KDE4 plasma was written from scratch) or the functionality is 
> not really as popular as you think. Maybe some even considered it as clutter.

I do not know how you know what feature is how popular. Did you make 
statistics? Most of the people who miss some functionality are just too busy or 
lazy to complain about it. Bug reports do not respect what people generally 
think about the program/OS.
I even do not think that developers (in this case KDE developers and openSUSE 
developers) know what features are how popular. It is obvious from the last 1-2 
year history of KDE and openSUSE. 

> Complaining about something you get for free and at the same time not be 
> willing to spend your own resources on something you consider crucial seems a 
> bit inconsistent. Why should somebody else do you a favour if you yourself 
> are 
> not willing to put that work/money into it?
This is absolutely nonsense. First, how do you know what I or anyone else did 
so far for making it (KDE, openSUSE, othre opensource) better? How do you know 
that I have not purchased the openSUSE boxed set? Ho do you know that I have 
not payed for other linux software (eg. Crossover Office)?  
But all this has nothing to do with the issue I have raised.
off: I think that putting KDE4 as default in openSUSE 11.1 in a so unmatured, 
unpolished state was a very big mistake. Many people might have left openSUSE 
and linux for good because of this. 

Second, do you think that those people who are just using the OS, and took 
serious time to learn how to use it, will start learing everything again 
because of a change? KDE3 and KDE4 differ so much. It is like an absolutely 
different OS. I take the time and try to learn the new things - but I am not 
willing to do it again and again. And those who I am talking of, like my 
parents and many more, certainly will not do it. This policy does not not 
attract more and more people to use linux but scares them away.

> > > As with all opensource things you use for free there are only two ways to
> > > get the features you want: a) spend your own money or free time to get
> > > them implemented b) wait until somebody else does so.
It is exactly what I am doing. That's why I asked the question.
Furthermore using a software and spreading it is also a mean of support.


> So? KDE3 is dead and just because somebody spent his time on it, does not 
> mean 
> that the same person will spend his time again on KDE4 implementing the same 
> feature.

If I produce something that has nice features certainly I will not improve it 
by removing those features.

I also know that until KDE3 will be available I will use it, and will not 
switch to KDE4 unless it will have all the functionality that KDE3 has/had. You 
don't want to sit back from your nice car to a coach.

Istvan

 
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