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Re: [opensuse] 2 KDE4 panel questions/remarks
- From: Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:57:44 +0200
- Message-id: <21cf6c2a.1654ad0d.4a8089c8.62618@xxxxx>
Either a lot of people miss a function, then it is likely that it will be re>
implemented (KDE4 plasma was written from scratch) or the functionality is
not really as popular as you think. Maybe some even considered it as clutter.
I do not know how you know what feature is how popular. Did you make
statistics? Most of the people who miss some functionality are just too busy or
lazy to complain about it. Bug reports do not respect what people generally
think about the program/OS.
I even do not think that developers (in this case KDE developers and openSUSE
developers) know what features are how popular. It is obvious from the last 1-2
year history of KDE and openSUSE.
Complaining about something you get for free and at the same time not beThis is absolutely nonsense. First, how do you know what I or anyone else did
willing to spend your own resources on something you consider crucial seems a
bit inconsistent. Why should somebody else do you a favour if you yourself
not willing to put that work/money into it?
so far for making it (KDE, openSUSE, othre opensource) better? How do you know
that I have not purchased the openSUSE boxed set? Ho do you know that I have
not payed for other linux software (eg. Crossover Office)?
But all this has nothing to do with the issue I have raised.
off: I think that putting KDE4 as default in openSUSE 11.1 in a so unmatured,
unpolished state was a very big mistake. Many people might have left openSUSE
and linux for good because of this.
Second, do you think that those people who are just using the OS, and took
serious time to learn how to use it, will start learing everything again
because of a change? KDE3 and KDE4 differ so much. It is like an absolutely
different OS. I take the time and try to learn the new things - but I am not
willing to do it again and again. And those who I am talking of, like my
parents and many more, certainly will not do it. This policy does not not
attract more and more people to use linux but scares them away.
It is exactly what I am doing. That's why I asked the question.As with all opensource things you use for free there are only two ways to
get the features you want: a) spend your own money or free time to get
them implemented b) wait until somebody else does so.
Furthermore using a software and spreading it is also a mean of support.
So? KDE3 is dead and just because somebody spent his time on it, does not
that the same person will spend his time again on KDE4 implementing the same
If I produce something that has nice features certainly I will not improve it
by removing those features.
I also know that until KDE3 will be available I will use it, and will not
switch to KDE4 unless it will have all the functionality that KDE3 has/had. You
don't want to sit back from your nice car to a coach.
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