Listmates, The new ATI driver is available from the ati site. The 9.1 release is version 8.573-1. The driver installs fine and seems to work fine on 11.0, but it is still slow compared to the 8-9 release. (it's a little slow compared to the 8-12 release). The annoying sluggishness of the driver is most noticeable when browsing through my bookmarks or scrolling pages. It probably effects games as well, but I don't run any to tell. The glxgears comparison is as follows: 9-1 Driver: 01:02 alchemy:~> glxgears #no compix 3030 frames in 5.0 seconds = 605.572 FPS 2587 frames in 5.0 seconds = 517.319 FPS 2578 frames in 5.0 seconds = 515.254 FPS 01:02 alchemy:~> glxgears # with compiz 2753 frames in 5.0 seconds = 550.591 FPS 2598 frames in 5.0 seconds = 519.210 FPS 2604 frames in 5.0 seconds = 520.450 FPS 2600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 519.994 FPS 8-12 Driver: 23:59 alchemy:~> glxgears 3021 frames in 5.0 seconds = 604.191 FPS 2613 frames in 5.0 seconds = 522.544 FPS 2614 frames in 5.0 seconds = 522.795 FPS 8-9 Driver: 23:43 alchemy:~> glxgears 4889 frames in 5.0 seconds = 977.692 FPS 4870 frames in 5.0 seconds = 973.831 FPS I don't know why the ATI Linux driver performance continues to suck. I have issues trouble tickets to ATI for every release since 8-9 and, it still sucks. (That just shows the pull I have with ATI) I can't speak to whether it fixes 3D in 11.1, for that, you will just have to install it and find out. The link to the driver download is: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver... The download is the same for i586 and x86_64. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org