[opensuse] New ATI Driver 9.1 (8.573-1) Available - Still Slow...
Listmates, The new ATI driver is available from the ati site. The 9.1 release is version 8.573-1. The driver installs fine and seems to work fine on 11.0, but it is still slow compared to the 8-9 release. (it's a little slow compared to the 8-12 release). The annoying sluggishness of the driver is most noticeable when browsing through my bookmarks or scrolling pages. It probably effects games as well, but I don't run any to tell. The glxgears comparison is as follows: 9-1 Driver: 01:02 alchemy:~> glxgears #no compix 3030 frames in 5.0 seconds = 605.572 FPS 2587 frames in 5.0 seconds = 517.319 FPS 2578 frames in 5.0 seconds = 515.254 FPS 01:02 alchemy:~> glxgears # with compiz 2753 frames in 5.0 seconds = 550.591 FPS 2598 frames in 5.0 seconds = 519.210 FPS 2604 frames in 5.0 seconds = 520.450 FPS 2600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 519.994 FPS 8-12 Driver: 23:59 alchemy:~> glxgears 3021 frames in 5.0 seconds = 604.191 FPS 2613 frames in 5.0 seconds = 522.544 FPS 2614 frames in 5.0 seconds = 522.795 FPS 8-9 Driver: 23:43 alchemy:~> glxgears 4889 frames in 5.0 seconds = 977.692 FPS 4870 frames in 5.0 seconds = 973.831 FPS I don't know why the ATI Linux driver performance continues to suck. I have issues trouble tickets to ATI for every release since 8-9 and, it still sucks. (That just shows the pull I have with ATI) I can't speak to whether it fixes 3D in 11.1, for that, you will just have to install it and find out. The link to the driver download is: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver... The download is the same for i586 and x86_64. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
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The annoying sluggishness of the driver is most noticeable when browsing through my bookmarks or scrolling pages. It probably effects games as well, but I don't run any to tell.
The glxgears comparison is as follows:
9-1 Driver:
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01:02 alchemy:~> glxgears # with compiz 2753 frames in 5.0 seconds = 550.591 FPS 2598 frames in 5.0 seconds = 519.210 FPS 2604 frames in 5.0 seconds = 520.450 FPS 2600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 519.994 FPS
I reinstalled the 8-9 driver and the desktop smoothness is back to normal. A follow-up with glxgears frame rates shows: 02:26 alchemy:~> glxgears 5008 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1001.453 FPS 5103 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1020.519 FPS 5103 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1020.580 FPS 5105 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1020.997 FPS 5103 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1020.493 FPS Since the 8-10 ATI driver release, a significant degradation in performance was introduced that effect my Toshiba Laptop with Radeon x1200/x1300 card. I submitted another trouble-ticket. Here's to hope... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
The new ATI driver is available from the ati site. The 9.1 release is version 8.573-1. The driver installs fine and seems to work fine on 11.0, but it is still slow compared to the 8-9 release. (it's a little slow compared to the 8-12 release).
The annoying sluggishness of the driver is most noticeable when browsing through my bookmarks or scrolling pages. It probably effects games as well, but I don't run any to tell.
Hi David I've also just this weekend updated to 8.573, but I can't say I've noticed any sluggishness, Doom3 seem to run fine.
The glxgears comparison is as follows:
9-1 Driver:
01:02 alchemy:~> glxgears #no compix 3030 frames in 5.0 seconds = 605.572 FPS 2587 frames in 5.0 seconds = 517.319 FPS 2578 frames in 5.0 seconds = 515.254 FPS
My glxgears numbers are even worse: 1883 frames in 5.0 seconds = 376.295 FPS 1882 frames in 5.0 seconds = 376.395 FPS 1887 frames in 5.0 seconds = 377.395 FPS 1890 frames in 5.0 seconds = 377.996 FPS This is with glxgears maximized on a 1680x1050 screen, the card is a Radeon X1650. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (0.00°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 02 February 2009, Per Jessen wrote:
The glxgears comparison is as follows:
9-1 Driver:
01:02 alchemy:~> glxgears #no compix 3030 frames in 5.0 seconds = 605.572 FPS 2587 frames in 5.0 seconds = 517.319 FPS 2578 frames in 5.0 seconds = 515.254 FPS
My glxgears numbers are even worse:
1883 frames in 5.0 seconds = 376.295 FPS 1882 frames in 5.0 seconds = 376.395 FPS 1887 frames in 5.0 seconds = 377.395 FPS 1890 frames in 5.0 seconds = 377.996 FPS
This is with glxgears maximized on a 1680x1050 screen, the card is a Radeon X1650.
Mine seems to be OK.. I just checked after you sent this and here is what I get. It is on a HD4670 with 512m of video memory.. mike@linux-y0q8:~> glxgears 32049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6409.800 FPS 40904 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8180.797 FPS 40899 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8179.648 FPS 37218 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7443.497 FPS 41005 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8200.895 FPS Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mike wrote:
Mine seems to be OK.. I just checked after you sent this and here is what I get. It is on a HD4670 with 512m of video memory..
mike@linux-y0q8:~> glxgears 32049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6409.800 FPS 40904 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8180.797 FPS 40899 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8179.648 FPS 37218 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7443.497 FPS 41005 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8200.895 FPS
I get those too, but only if I leave the glxgears window running in the initial size. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (0.62°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mike wrote:
On Monday 02 February 2009, Per Jessen wrote:
The glxgears comparison is as follows:
9-1 Driver:
01:02 alchemy:~> glxgears #no compix 3030 frames in 5.0 seconds = 605.572 FPS 2587 frames in 5.0 seconds = 517.319 FPS 2578 frames in 5.0 seconds = 515.254 FPS My glxgears numbers are even worse:
1883 frames in 5.0 seconds = 376.295 FPS 1882 frames in 5.0 seconds = 376.395 FPS 1887 frames in 5.0 seconds = 377.395 FPS 1890 frames in 5.0 seconds = 377.996 FPS
This is with glxgears maximized on a 1680x1050 screen, the card is a Radeon X1650.
Mine seems to be OK.. I just checked after you sent this and here is what I get. It is on a HD4670 with 512m of video memory..
mike@linux-y0q8:~> glxgears 32049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6409.800 FPS 40904 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8180.797 FPS 40899 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8179.648 FPS 37218 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7443.497 FPS 41005 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8200.895 FPS
Mike
Ahah! It's Mike's fault! All you guys with the new 3700, 3800, 4700 & 4800 Series cards needed all that new code;-) For those of us with old hardware, ATI had it right with the 8-9 driver. My old AGP bus Radeon X800: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R430 [Radeon X800 (PCIE)] Was limping along OK, 17:33 KillerZ~> glxgears 44315 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8862.840 FPS 44123 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8824.425 FPS 44090 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8817.915 FPS 44335 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8866.806 FPS 44405 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8880.968 FPS 44278 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8855.499 FPS 44320 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8863.995 FPS 44386 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8877.088 FPS But with the new driver: 29670 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5933.948 FPS 30108 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6021.553 FPS 30058 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6011.489 FPS 29866 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5973.131 FPS 29837 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5967.316 FPS 30007 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6001.324 FPS 30102 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6020.340 FPS 29900 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5979.841 FPS 29487 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5897.372 FPS I sure wish ATI would get this fixed. Then there is the question of who is going to replace Stefan Dirsch here at openSuSE as the package manager for openSuSE. Stefan has done a great job making sure that we all have good rpms to load and helping elevate issues with ATI. With Stefan handing over the reigns, I shudder to think what the near-term looks like. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/02/02 19:39 (GMT-0500) David C. Rankin composed:
My old AGP bus Radeon X800:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R430 [Radeon X800 (PCIE)]
So what kind of mutant to you have that is both AGP and PCIe? I thought X800 was PCIe only. What happens with the OS driver? -- "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up." Ephesians 4:29 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/02/02 19:39 (GMT-0500) David C. Rankin composed:
My old AGP bus Radeon X800:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R430 [Radeon X800 (PCIE)]
So what kind of mutant to you have that is both AGP and PCIe? I thought X800 was PCIe only.
What happens with the OS driver?
Nope, I have 2 X800, Both AGP. One is an X800XT with 256M of GDDR3 (R430) and an X800XT (R420), both new for less than $36.00. Specs were great! Chip Core / Memory Clk, Interface, Mem xfer Pixels/clock Radeon X800 XT 500 MHz/ 1 GHz 256-bit 32 GB/s 16 Believe it or not, they are still building high-end agp cards today. Some things never change;-) The OS (radeon) driver is decent, but lacks the performance of the ATI (fglrx) driver and doesn't play as nicely with compiz. Depending on your model card, the OS driver may, or may not, support the Display Power Management functions to put the monitor to sleep directly. All in all, the fglrx driver has been a hands down winner since the February '08 release up to and including the 8-9 release in 9/09. Starting with the October 08 release, performance went down hill ... Since it is closed source, all we can do is speculate. My speculation still places it's money on the code adjustment needed to support the 3XXX and 4XXX series of cards having an unforeseen negative effect on the older cards. And, since this is Linux, from AMD's point of view, it's not important enough to put resources toward. BUT HEY -- At least this time I got a response from ADM: Ticket Details Back Back Ticket Summary Ticket #: 737-1394093 Status: Response Sent Date Created: 2/2/2009 2:42 AM EDT Date Updated: 2/2/2009 4:46 AM EDT Ticket Description Type of Inquiry: PC support Bus Type: PCI Operating System: Linux X86 64 Other Operating System: Driver Version: Driver Version: Other Other Driver Version: 9.1 release (8.573-1) Category: Linux Driver Feedback <snip> The slowness is very prominent on the KDE desktop when navigating menus or scrolling documents with graphics and text. Let me know if I can do anything to help. Until then, I'm going back to the 8-9 driver because -- performance matters a lot on my laptop. I've attached my xorg.conf for your review. Attachment: xorg.conf Actions Comment: The above text contains HTML formatting Options Customer CC Emails: Attachment: Attach a file History Action Date Actions Contact Name Comment 2/2/2009 4:46 AM EDT Posted Comment CSRCustomer Care EmailMessage.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2/2/2009 4:45 AM EDT System Ran Alert AR - linux feedback -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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