Cristian Rodríguez writes:
Joachim Schrod escribió:
According to many reports, 64-bit Linux desktop userland is not stable enough to be used as primary system for my intented use cases.
care to explain what has the architecture to do with "stability" from your point of view ?
As I explained: There are 64-bit userland programs that I intend to use, where there are confirmed reports of crashes and instability in the last 6 months. This concerns in particular Eclipse and other Java-based packages, when one uses the 64-bit JVM 1.5 from Sun. Please note that updating to Java 6 or an other JVM is not possible for me; Java versions to be used are determined by my customers, not by me. I can't tell them to update the JVM for their central JBoss in their data center just because I want to use 64-bit Eclipse on OpenSUSE 11.1. They would laugh me out of the room, and just rightly so. For some of these crashes, root cause analysis are available and fixes sit in Sun's code repository or are even released -- but it ain't clear if they really resolve the major problems, since they have not been out for long enough. See, for example, from the 1st page of a Google search: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=214092#c19 http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6614100 http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse/browse_thread/thread/0b3a32231b683d... http://tcl.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~hendrik/eclipse64.shtml (I know from mailing lists that these issues are also there for Java 5, not only for Java 6. I just don't have the bug numbers handy right now.) If one follows Java and Eclipse mailing lists and newsgroups, similar reports pour in even after Sun's fix was released. Thus, more testing is needed for me before I make the switch to an all-64-bit userland. Add to that the recommendations from this mailing list to use 32-bit userland for all programs that use win32 codecs or flash, and I'm at the point to prefer to start with 32-bit userland programs and move gradually to 64-bit after testing. But for testing, I need a 64-bit kernel, and that triggered my question. Using 11.1 right from the start will be bleeding-edge enough for a workstation where schedules have to be met... Regards, Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org