Jerry Houston wrote:
On Thursday 20 November 2008 02:42:13 Joachim Schrod wrote:
In case you're wondering why I want that constellation: I prefer 32bit userland for its stability and availability of media stuff (e.g., win32 codecs), but I also want to run 64bit OSes in VMware instances. For that I need a 64bit kernel. In addition, it will handle my 8 GB main memory better than a PAE kernel.
Oh yes, the release of choice will be eventually 11.1; in case that matters.
Joachim, I'm not sure you'd have any problem with a 64-bit "userland" at all.
Here at home, both my domain controller and my desktop workstation are 64-bit AMD machines running 11.0, 64-bit all the way. My laptop (which I'm using to answer you) is a 32-bit Toshiba Intel machine, also running 11.0.
So far, I haven't found anything that I can do with the laptop that I can't also do with either the desktop workstation or the server. That includes watching MotoGP videos, YouTube videos, commercial DVDs, and so on.
Maybe our requirements are different, but I'd recommend that you consider starting with a 64-bit system, and only worrying about a 32-bit runtime if you find out that it really matters to you. I'm guessing that it won't.
In June, on several Java/Eclipse mailing lists were still reports by people who have problems with 64-bit installations, also with SUSE 11.0. Just google for "eclipse 64-bit crash" and you see the
60,000 posts, many of them from the last half year. Even if this is supposed to change with 11.1, that would be way to fresh and the risk would be too high to make that the primary environment for development. (Also, my clients use 32-bit Java installations mostly.)
According to many reports, 64-bit Linux desktop userland is not stable enough to be used as primary system for my intented use cases. Nevertheless, I want to try and experiment with 64-bit (in a VM); but I won't change my primary workstation, where I'm earning money with, without extensive tests. I would not consider that professional. I don't get this new system for fun or to play with, but because this fscking development environments and virtual machines need so much main memory and disk space that it's not economic any more to upgrade my current workstation. But plunging head-first into untested environments is something for home and after-hours, not for work where I have to get stuff done on tight time schedules. I'm using Linux since more than 13 years, and Unix since more than 25 years -- that's a lesson I learned in that time. Upgrading to 11.1 shortly after it comes out will be risk enough... Please believe me, my question was born out of necessity, and not because I'm overly cautious. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org