Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2114 mails)

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BASIL -

 I totally agree with you in all the vast loss of functionality in KDE4.
The major reason is that KDE in .DE and Suse.DE to a less extent do not
use the interface you and I do. Have you ever see a Procedure, Apart
from Mine, written to show you how to use the GUI to accomplish tasks.

Even the suggestion at the beginning of the Support Database states that
all users should use command line entry wee possible and reproduce it in
the procedure.

So its not hard to realize that the Suse  is developed by people why do
not even use their own interface - If they did there would not be the
abundant amount of loss in functionality from 3.5 KDE to Native KDE and
Suse KDE4.0

If it is any consolation there are bug reports about the missing
functionality and with respect to  SUSE.DE - They probably, rightfully,
thought that KDE4 would have anything but more functionality not missing
interface function as basic as those that are missing
We should get to a stage when we have KDE4.1 in V 11.1 So Please don't
run away from us just yet - Development IS frustrating particularly when
the developers spend more time at the command prompt that the GUI.

With Reference to the Panel's in KDE4 - What an horrific waste of
functionality in KDE3 - Its shameful - But if you find you have deleted
stuff and can't get the space back - Go to users in YAST and create
yourself a new user and start over again as the new user will have the
default Panels

Remember perhaps its the devil you know  - I am still trying to get
Thunderbird to correctly handle S/MIME receipts for over 3 years and
nominal S/MIME email certificate processing still does not work - But
hey its just the International Standard.

You can vote for the ones you want to:-

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435456
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=425434
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436278
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436811

Scott

Basil Chupin wrote:
> John Andersen wrote:
>   
> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Basil Chupin <blchupin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >   
> >     
> > > Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > >     
> > >       
> > > > 2008/10/21 Thierry de Coulon <tcoulon@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > >
> > > >       
> > > >         
> > > > > The "bottom bar" (panel?) is almost unusable at this point, too big and 
> > > > > not
> > > > > very customizable. It's a central part fo my desktop, so it's a show 
> > > > > stopper
> > > > > to me.
> > > > >
> > > > >         
> > > > >           
> > > > Can you be more specific, let's file a bug.
> > > >
> > > >       
> > > >         
> > > On the 20/10 I wrote this in this forum:
> > >
> > > QUOTE
> > >
> > > For those who may not know it yet, I discovered this morning that the
> > > Taskbar in KDE4.1x can be made to Autohide, just like previously in
> > > KDE3. Luvly! (I don't know when this came into affect.)
> > >
> > > Just right-click on the Taskbar, select Panel Settings and then select
> > > More Settings.
> > >
> > > One thing, the Always Visible option always shows up with a red tick
> > > even if you select Autohide so ignore this little idiosyncrasy, select
> > > Autohide and save the new setting.
> > >
> > > Ciao.
> > >
> > >
> > > UNQUOTE
> > >
> > >
> > > Didn't anyone read the above?
> > >     
> > >       
> > Probably not.
> >
> > Is there also the ability to shrink it (vertically) so that it does not take
> > so much room?
> >     
>
>
> Yes, but you could do this anyway for a long time: all you had to do is
> to bring up the additional 'bar (thru Settings), left-clicking and
> holding the top of the new 'bar and then pushing it down; by doing so
> you also compressed the Taskbar.
>
>   
> >   To have different wall paper on each desk top, to have
> > multiple desktops,
> >     
>
> Multiple desktops yes (I have 6) but one cannot as yet have each with
> its own wallpaper - this bit is still to come. (Multiple desktops:
> right-click on a desktop icon in the taskbar and select the number you
> want in Configure Desktop.)
>
>   
> >  to have transparent task bars?
> >     
>
> Don't know - haven't tried. (Getting the Taskbar to Autohide was a
> thrill- all else was forgotten! :-D .)
>
>   
> >  To size the icons
> > on the task bar?
> >   
> >     
>
> Yes, and you could do this before but I don't remember how I did it.
>
>
> Ciao.
>
>
>