Mates, I have updated to the latest compiz in X11:/XGL and it works flawlessly, even boo-hoo emerald works fine. Install was accomplished by selecting the X11:/XGL repository and _disabling_ X11:/Compiz. After install, I deleted ~/.config/compiz (leaving ~/.emerald untouched from 0.7.6) and logging out and logging back in and starting compiz with fusion-icon. The packages installed are: 00:19 alchemy~/.config> rpm -qa | grep compiz compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.7.8-3.2 compiz-0.7.8-8.1 compiz-emerald-themes-0.6.0-16.1 libcompizconfig-0.7.8-3.3 compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.7.8-4.1 compiz-kde-0.7.8-8.1 compiz-emerald-0.7.8-2.3 compizconfig-settings-manager-0.7.8-2.3 python-compizconfig-0.7.8-2.3 All works great. A courtesy screenshot for disbelievers: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshots/compiz/compiz-rotate_0.7.8-8... The bugs from Sunday are gone (ksnapshot works, and I can log in and log out). Note: I have also tried the same install with the 0.7.8-3 packages that are new in compiz and the problems from the weekend linger (ksnapshot hidded/delayed execution - can't log out with compiz running) Great Job! Thanks J for all your help. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org