On Wednesday 30 July 2008 02:23:53 am Clayton wrote:
a couple of hours ago i tried the 1 click install of kde4.1 . something must be wrong with the 1 click, as I can not get a file manager window up in 4.1
There is a known problem with the repo servers. Was in another thread from a couple of hours ago.
"known" for a .... couple of hours (!!!!!) is supposed to mean what? If it becomes "known", someone should disable the one click install until fixed, no? come to think of it, my negative comments wouldn't be on this thread if someone had actually stopped a faulty download....
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can't find a way to change the number of desktops
System Settings > Desktop > Multiple Desktops
Why was this removed from the oh so bland and conventional right click on the desktop >configure desktop popup? Little arbitrary crap like that *discourages* many....
or put a different background on one of the two existing ones,
Not included yet. Last I read it's planned for a future release.
That can *not* be a big technical issue, yet it can be rather irritating. What's the use of having 5 desktops if one has to sift thru all 5 in order to find an open app? different wallpaper is almost essential once you go past 2 desktops
All is well with my system when I switch to kde 3.5.
KDE3.5 was not a ground up re-write to QT4... KDE4 was. Give it a chance. "Missing" features are coming back all the time.
I *never* said anything about KDE4 before. A complete rewrite must be given time. HOWEVER: 4.0xxxxxx was the place (and time) for all the "little" and most "big" items to be addressed... Please excuse me for expecting a functional system after 4.0 graduated to 4.1!!!! Could you possibly explain a couple of things on this renumbering, many like me have a hard time understanding it.
kde 4.1 has gone up in numbers from 4.0, yet it seems so un-prepared for basic functionality.
Works fine here - I use KDE4.1 every day all day long as my regular home user desktop, and now as my home work desktop
GOOD for you!!! I am back at 3.5.
Things are different, but there is no core fundamental functionality thst is missing that makes KDE unusable.
If being unuseable is your rejection criterion, the bar seems to be pretty low.
It's, in my opinion, a lot more usable than any version of Gnome I use (I use Gnome on my 2nd home computer, and on my work computer in the office).
Basic functionality? What is basic functionality?
basic access to a file manager for starters?
The fact you cannot yet set a different wallpaper on desktop two is not that critical... definitely not a make-or-break for functionality.
it *is* make or break for the 6 desktops i normally run.
The main thing I can see that is broken is how the desktop works.
you said it......
. in that you cannot yet use the Desktop as a temp storage bucket for random files. The KDE guys are planning a fix, and from what i understand we can expect it to be working around 4.2.
It must be wonderful to make these great leaps and bounds, from 4.0 all the way to 4.2 in ......*six* bug fixes.... At this rate, perhaps kde 7.5 will have all the wonderfulness of qt4 and the functionality of kde 3.5!!!!!! This is getting real scary, some of the horrors forecast about microsoft's influence after the "collaboration" agreement between novel and ms was announced, seem to be coming out loud and clear!!!!who is benefiting from this?
kde 4.1 can *not* be that inadequate, yet the inability to properly install is itself a major flaw...
So... do it "right"
do what right? I FOLLOWED CORRECT PROCEDURE when I installed 4.1, what part of that don't you get?
(or different depending on how you look at it) and add the KDE Factory and Community repos to YaST and update to 4.1 there. Of course you'll have to wait until the repo servers are fixed
no thanks, I don't have to wait. I thought I had waited enough thru all the 4.0 issues, now it is dissappointing to see that 4.1 is sub par for my standards.
:-)
C.
kde4 might eventually end up at the top, but I am afraid that either by design or by foolishness it will have a very hard time surviving. whoever decides what to release, what to fix, what to call it and when to release is causing very serious damage. we can only hope that it is not intentional and that lessons from mistakes can be learned. after all, it might be someone's stubborness and not ms who is behind the present state of the fiasco... d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org