John Andersen wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Pete Connolly
wrote: Why is this discussion not on a KDE development list? The original complaint was that the wording on the installation regarding desktop choice was poor.
That was the original complaint as regards Opensuse. It has now gone beyond that if you ave been following the thread.
Of course I've been following the thread. The thread has gone way beyond the remit of this list and is heading towards the killfile stage.
We are now told that anything missing from KDE4 must be asked for on Novell's bug reporting system. So the discussion still belongs here.
Can someone just file bugs somewhere saying what is missing? I don't care if it's Novell's bugzilla or the KDE one, just do something constructive instead of spending hours writing "KDE4 is crap". Come on, 95% of this KDE4 discussion is hot air, rants and insults against the very developers that spend their time producing _free_ software the we can all use - think what could be done in that time.
We are also being told that KDE3 is dead even before KDE4 is expected to be complete, and KDE3 will be dropped from Opensuse 11.1. We are told we have to file a bug report on that too. (How do you file a bug report on a future action?).
As easily as you file a bug against a current application. Just try.
It still belongs on this list. We are opensuse users. Why can't we discuss the contents of Opensuse here?
I'm not saying you can't discuss this there, I'm just saying it's not the best place to do so. KDE4 isn't a purely opensuse 11.0 thing, it just so happens to be the best implementation of KDE4 that's available. And the thanks that the KDE devs in SuSE get for doing such a great job? Nothing. Aaron and others (or maybe they're all Aaron), insult, denigrate and abuse the developers publicly and at great length about missing 'things'. These things aren't listed, of course, nor do any of the emails from the complainers clarify what exactly they are missing or what they want done - it's all just one big rant that can be summarised 'KDE4 isn't KDE3, so I'm not happy'. I've got two kids, a 6 year old and a 4 year old. I can get more civil conversations from them than I can get from some people on this list. They've learned to tell me what their problem is, not just to whine that they have a problem. I'm not aiming this at you John, but think about it, please. Cheers Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org