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[peter nikolic <p.nikolic1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Saturday 21 June 2008, John Andersen wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Anders Johansson <ajh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Saturday 21 June 2008 06:30:37 Matt Archer wrote:
> > > In other words, as we said for MONTHS, KDE 4 is incomplete
> > > and NOT READY,
> > >
> > > Did you listen??
> > >
> > > Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
> >
> > Hi Aaron,
> >
> > Not ready for what? 10.3 included a KDE4 alpha, but nobody complained
> > about that.
> >
> > It's not as if KDE4 is the only choice available, KDE 3.5.9 is there, and
> > the help text on the window manager selection screen clearly says it's
> > less mature
> >
> > Anders
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> Then why are we seeing this rash of KDE4 problems?
>
> Is it perhaps because the warning was no where near explicit enough,
> suckering all kinds of first time users into installing KDE4?
>
> Way to make a good impression!
>
> People were begging for more explicit warnings, demanding the word Beta or
> even Alpha be included.  Suse people on this list wer the only ones
> vociferously
> opposing this.
>
>
>
>
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> ----------JSA---------

I have been saying this for ages the menu for install needs to state very 
clearly 

KDE 3.5.x     Stable good to go 

KDE 4.x.x     VERY ALPHA/BETA install at your own risk lots missing and faulty

Gnome         Please yourself

but all i ever get i shot down from on high within opensuse the same happened 
on LWN as well with the same people accusing me of bieng all sorts of idiot 
for saying KDE 4 IS NOT READY  and should NOT BE INCLUDED IN A Distro it 
probably needs another 9 to 12 months of work before inclusion in a distro it 
has to be at LEAST as good as the present release of KDE 3.5.x and i mean all 
the tools ALL the CONFIG options ALL the APPS .

I have just got to say   I TOLD YOU SO people at suse your reviews will be 
CRAP and you only have yourselfs to blame there are so many bugs that should 
have delayed the release for a few weeks it is untrue  ,  You have made your 
bed you lie in it .

Pete   (vindicated at last)



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