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Re: [SLE] Managing Upgrade from 9.2 to 9.3
- From: michaelnel@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:20:05 +0000
- Message-id: <041720051820.15182.4262A8D4000CFE7A00003B4E2207002953040A02040A0E080C0703@xxxxxxxxxxx>
My 9.2 -> 9.3 upgrade was an unmitigated disaster. Every time I try upgrading SuSE it's a mess. I used to buy the boxed set each time, but it puts me through so much crap that I decided I don't want to continue paying for it. I can get that kind of abuse for free, so last time I waited to upgrade to 9.2 until it was on the ftp sites.
This time I decided to get it from the infamous torrent. It has caused me problems on all three systems I installed it on, but on the first two they were easily solved.
So I tried upgrading my MAIN machine from 9.2 (up to date with apt) to 9.3. Disaster.
No X, fetchnvidia.sh fetches a driver that segfaults upon startup.
No sound, alsa segfaulted
No printing, it can't find my usb printer that has worked fine with all previous versions of suse and STILL works perfectly with win xp, but 9.3 simply can't find a printer there.
So, since I have /home on a separate partition, and have backups, I decided to bite the bullet and do a clean install.
I still have the same problems.
What a piece of crap. I'm glad I didn't PAY for this mess. SuSE's been going downhill at a breakneck pace since Novell took over.
> On Sunday 17 April 2005 10:29 am, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> >
> > just curious, when you say backup entire system, what do you mean, and
> > what did you use?
>
> I use two different ones, dar and backup2l . Just recently started
> using dar and may switch to it entirely, just haven't decided. As for
> what I mean by backing up the entire system, just what I said, dar
> creates a backup of everything on the system for me. It's on your
> SuSE CD/DVD, check it out. I have it dump the backup slices to
> a networked Buffalo Linkstation. Every once and a while I burn
> DVDs of the slices.
>
> >
> > usr/local ?? help me out here, I have been backing up /etc and /home,
> > what do I need from /usr/local ? ?
>
> Well behaved applications that you may install off the net or elsewhere
> will generally install themselves to /usr/local so by preserving /usr/local,
> you will not have to reinstall all those applications after a fresh
> install.
>
>
> >
> > > Either way seems more painful to me than it should be. I really
> > > hate to use Windows as an example, but OS upgrades in Windows
> > > did not break a bunch of stuff on me like the Linux upgrades seem
> > > to do.
> >
> > um, well... I beg to differ... XP SP1 broke a bunch of stuff on my
> > setup. I've had to back out a few others in my time, but lets not talk
> > M$ today :)
>
> :) OK, agreed. No win talk today <g>
>
> Scott
>
>
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This time I decided to get it from the infamous torrent. It has caused me problems on all three systems I installed it on, but on the first two they were easily solved.
So I tried upgrading my MAIN machine from 9.2 (up to date with apt) to 9.3. Disaster.
No X, fetchnvidia.sh fetches a driver that segfaults upon startup.
No sound, alsa segfaulted
No printing, it can't find my usb printer that has worked fine with all previous versions of suse and STILL works perfectly with win xp, but 9.3 simply can't find a printer there.
So, since I have /home on a separate partition, and have backups, I decided to bite the bullet and do a clean install.
I still have the same problems.
What a piece of crap. I'm glad I didn't PAY for this mess. SuSE's been going downhill at a breakneck pace since Novell took over.
> On Sunday 17 April 2005 10:29 am, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> >
> > just curious, when you say backup entire system, what do you mean, and
> > what did you use?
>
> I use two different ones, dar and backup2l . Just recently started
> using dar and may switch to it entirely, just haven't decided. As for
> what I mean by backing up the entire system, just what I said, dar
> creates a backup of everything on the system for me. It's on your
> SuSE CD/DVD, check it out. I have it dump the backup slices to
> a networked Buffalo Linkstation. Every once and a while I burn
> DVDs of the slices.
>
> >
> > usr/local ?? help me out here, I have been backing up /etc and /home,
> > what do I need from /usr/local ? ?
>
> Well behaved applications that you may install off the net or elsewhere
> will generally install themselves to /usr/local so by preserving /usr/local,
> you will not have to reinstall all those applications after a fresh
> install.
>
>
> >
> > > Either way seems more painful to me than it should be. I really
> > > hate to use Windows as an example, but OS upgrades in Windows
> > > did not break a bunch of stuff on me like the Linux upgrades seem
> > > to do.
> >
> > um, well... I beg to differ... XP SP1 broke a bunch of stuff on my
> > setup. I've had to back out a few others in my time, but lets not talk
> > M$ today :)
>
> :) OK, agreed. No win talk today <g>
>
> Scott
>
>
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