On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 01:31, cikasole wrote:
To original poster (Adrian Costescu).
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As you experienced, there are so many people ready to jump on the "privacy", "legality", "ethics" and such concepts, while being totally insensitive to the small but important detail on how your origin was misused in the first place. They just don't get the implicit insult that they made there, that's it. There's no help there, unfortunatelly. With time, you'll sort these rare exemplars out and learn how to work around their shallowness. Also, take care about the fun part, some of them are very valuable contributors to the list, but only when "out of the court" and not "judging", of course.
I don't necessarily agree that it is just the 'persons' origin that is the problem, I think it is more bigoted preconception that as their country is not run in the same way as 'we' run ours they have a problem with freedom. However I think though that for safeties sake we should not deal with countries that:- have Weapons of Mass Destruction, hold people in prison without charge or legal representation, treat foreigners with disrespect, singling them out for special treatment, fingerprinting etc, treating them differently because they have a different religion. Do not ratify UN resolution passed by the majority of countries. Do not recognise the International Court of Justice in case they get charged. Execute children for capital crimes. Can anyone suggest a country that fills the criteria?? In other words do not judge others if you do not want to be judged yourself.
I definitely think the SLE list membership is worth this price.
<irony> Anyway, if you want to enjoy the list membership to the max, you should create a throw-away mail account with a fake identity. Just take care to find one that can hold the mail's rather high traffic. Take care to make up an American-sounding name. With that being done, join the list again. You'll see, the signal-to-noise ratio will increase significantly. At least, nobody will ever single you out based on your (real) birthplace...:-) Collateral benefit might be that you'll be able to flame other people's asses with certain immunity, and expect considerable back-up, too. </irony>
I agree the SLE list is worth the price, even if I don't run SUSE now. and we shouldn't have to hide our identities. Secret police or what??
Seriously, I guess many people on this list use this trick. What do you think - why so many "Americans" on the list have so bad spelling and grammar? It is not because they are illiterate and uneducated, for sure... :-) And, yes, you'll notice that certain nations are simply not there, despite the true international nature of the list. You don't think it's because they don't use SuSE Linux, do you?
Where did all these 'Americans' come from? Even the ones who live there came from somewhere else first! (OK EXCEPT for the native americans) irish americans, chinese americans, african americans, don't they all say they are something else as well as american?
Now, I am afraid I'll have to switch my identity too if I don't stop right now. :-) I guess another wave of flames follows right now, get prepared...I feel them tracing my IP address already.
Hopefully not.
Regards,
cikasole
I hope not too!! I'm not hiding my identity, if they don't like what I say, filter it out! and I will filter or ignore them. To my mind anyone can ask anything, I don't have to answer. There are always arguments for each side, make up your own mind but don't judge others because they are different. Love to all, kissy kissy Peace Man Laurence