Hi, I am not trying to start a flame war or anything. I just want to know if other people had the same experience with SuSE8.1 as I did. I've been using SuSE since 4.xx and I must admit that I have never had so many problems as I did with 8.1. It's visually a stunning distribution and the package management/dependencies are great with "YOU". They did a great job with the user friendly management tools. But I have spent about a month fixing things on my ThinkPad after I switched from 8.0 to 8.1. My workstation that I tried installing on is still waiting for me to fix it, it wouldn't boot after Installing, not to mention that it wouldn't even format the disks in the first place. Things that are not working for me on 8.1 but have worked on 8.0: PCMCIA: Flash cards (haven't tried other's) 1GB of memory: Wouldn't install on my laptop (UP) until I manually set mem to less than 1GB DAC960: My workstation(SMP) with a Mylex 1164 raid card wont boot after install VMWare: Segfaults and kernel oopses after loading a OS in the virtual machine Mathematica 4.2: It starts up but any complicated calculation will make the system go to lala land. There are other things but those are major ones for me that *have* worked under 8.0 just fine. Is it just my experience that 8.1 is the most broken SuSE distro ever? Due to so many things not working for me I think it took me a few weeks to vent out my fury after upgrading. Oh, the things I thought about doing with the 8.1 Box. Is it just me or have others had similar problems? Thanks. -- Peace can only come as a natural consequence of universal enlightenment. -Dr. Nikola Tesla